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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

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feedmenow · 27/04/2008 16:39

Oi you lot! How come other people always end up living near each other and knowing the same places and people and stuff! Never happens to me [sulky face emoticon] [foot stamping emoticon] I live in Surrey. Who else lives in Surrey? Come on, there must be someone!!!!!

Chegirl, it doesn't look like you've been back in here today, understandably considering the day. Just wanted to say that I'd love to see your beautiful daughter if you get a chance to post the link. She sounds like an absolute star. I hope today is easy on you and your family. xx

I didn't end up having a barny last night after all. The person I was worried about seeing was pretty good really. We had dinner at Pizza Express and right at the end of the meal I started getting a bit teary so we left pronto and went back to C's flat where I pretty much chain-smoked (I'm normally only a social smoker) guzzled bottles of wine and bawled my eyes out! But I think it was therapeutic in that I got a chance to talk lots about what happened before Eris was born, and about the birth and everything that happened after. I feel sad though, that I desperately want to talk lots about my baby but there is so little I can say Oh, set myself off again. Can someone give me a hand to pull the massive box of mansize tissues closer?

I got some more fabby birthday pressies too including some super-dooper anti-wrinkle stuff cos I'm getting crows feet, and a lovely digital photo frame. One of my friends even put some photos already on a memory stick for me In fact, I'm going to put one of the pictures on my profile cos it makes me laugh. My brothers and 2 friends got dressed up as super heroes for ds's birthday last year. Check them out and tell me what fabby brothers and friends I have for being seen like that in public!!

Shabs, my first little pink forget me not flowered yesterday I never realised what tiny flowers they are! The first 2 blue ones that come out will be for your boys.

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shabster · 27/04/2008 19:07

Thank you FMN - I have just done a forget me not inspection and I have a few little pink ones - dont think we have ever had them before. I bet you already know BUT - when the flowers have died off they leave a little seed. I pinch the bottom of the stem and draw my fingers along till I gather the seeds then just scatter them in the other tubs. I only had one small tub to begin with but now they are, kind of taking over!!!

I am many miles away from you, in Lancashire. I have never even been to Surrey - how sad is that. Never been to Scotland either!!!

I liked lurking today watching the conversation - all thanks to you and Eris

Your night out sounds good to me - Im all for a bit of drunken bawling

chegirl · 27/04/2008 20:51

Hi Guys,

Just dropping in very quick to say hello. Today was a good day and spent it all in the front garden making it special for my girl. It looks lovely lovley loverleeeee.

Billie's site is www.billie-josiah.memory-of.com

No I am in East London actually! Do I type in an American accent.

Back soon

x

lilyloo · 27/04/2008 20:55

FMN at your first little pink forgetmenot !

Monsoonrain · 27/04/2008 23:28

Just wanted to say how much I admire you all, I am sat in tears reading your stories. I cannot even begin to imagine how you have all gotten through it, it really is my worst fear and I wish it didnt happen to anyone.

Amyjade - have just seen your pictures of Freya, such a beautiful, gorgeous girl, im sure she gave you much joy and has left you with a lifetime of memories.

Thank you for sharing your stories, your little ones deserve to be talked about!

Thinking of you all x x

expatinscotland · 28/04/2008 00:02

There is not far from our home here a cemetary carved into a steep hillside some 600 years ago, where lies all that was mortal of the dukes of this region and many more besides. And some not at all, for they were lost at sea and all that remains of their memories weathers in the same bitter winds and salt spray that sank their ships.

Of all the slabs there, however, this one always stands out to me. It marks the final resting place of one Agness, daughter to Robert McPhunn, a farmer, who died at the age of 18 in 1786:

Snatched in her youth
How swift our comfort drew nigh
Here the fond hopes
Of mournful parents fly

shabster · 28/04/2008 09:30

Good morning ladies. It is pouring down in Lancashire. Hope you are all ok this morning.

lottiejenkins · 28/04/2008 10:30

Hi Shab, dry and sunny here today so far..... am off to work soon then going shopping with my mum later on... having to get bits for Wilfreds outward bound trip.

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 28/04/2008 10:31

Good morning all. Sorry to brag Shabster, but it is sunny here again in the south east

Lottie - I live near Bury St Edmunds. I sort of know Framlingham (I have been to the castle - surprise, surprise!) I love Suffolk too, and really can't imagine living anywhere else. I've lived in the south, mid and west of the county and have liked them all! Has you ds abandoned you and gone off on his outward bound adventure yet?

Chegirl - I hope your shoulders feel a little lighter, and your head a little clearer today. I will pop on Billie's site later xx

Pixle333 · 28/04/2008 10:44

Hi ladies,
I have to confess I haven't read through the thread yet but I will do so to get to know you all. I just wanted to pop in and say 'hi' as a first move. A few of you have kindly told me to come over here after I posted about missing my son's twin so much.
Pixle
xxx
(cloudy in London, but rain clouds gathering...booo!!)

LouiseAnn · 28/04/2008 10:45

To Feedmenow,
I live in Guildford, Surrey

Doobydoo · 28/04/2008 10:49

MOrning AllLovely and sunny here.Lottie...remember do not buy anything remotely GIRLIE...or you will probably be in trouble
Hello chegirl,hope you are ok today.I too will have a look at Billies link when I can relax
Triplets..I only just read about your son for you.
FMN...Fret not!I lived in Wokingham and Staines for a brief timeSo there you go.
Hope everyone is ok today.x

Doobydoo · 28/04/2008 10:50

WElcome Pixie333.

lottiejenkins · 28/04/2008 10:52

Nothing girlie i promise....... ive got to buy white fur though!!! He's going to go to a fancy dress party while on holiday and wants to be a "Felix cat." Luckily (says mum who cant sew to save her life) my fabby best friend Antonia is making him a cat suit and shes going to modify it from zip back to velcro front... bless him with his dyspraxia(same as me) he finds things like that difficult!

shabster · 28/04/2008 11:48

Pixle so glad you came to Eris' thread. We have only known each other for a few weeks but the support here is wonderful. We are all different ages, different circumstances, different experiences but, sadly, with a common bond.

At first this thread was littered with and, Im thrilled to say, just recently we have and one or two showing up more and more on our posts.

There is light at the end of the proverbial tunnel - we can all help each other to make that journey.

Welcome once again. xx

dippymother · 28/04/2008 13:04

Chegirl - hope you are ok, your "Billie" garden sounds fab. So sorry to hear that she died of Leukaemia. My DH was in Barts throughout 2007 with Acute Myeloid Leukaemia - we met lots of other people with various types of Leukaemia there, all ages, some successful, some not. DH is in remission now, hope it lasts but aware it may come back. I am also a bereaved mum, as my son died aged 8 months in 1989, still find the anniversary hard, and his birthday, no-one really mentions him any more but it has been nice to talk about it on here. The lovely mums on here will support you any time you want to have a rant or moan! Welcome.

Doobydoo · 28/04/2008 13:59

FMN...Are those places in Surrey
Lottie...bet the Felix cat costume will be fab

dippymother · 28/04/2008 15:07

FMW - I live in the land of white stilettos cos can't afford Surrey......!

Anyway glad to hear you found your evening out therapeutic, I certainly found it helped me to talk about what happened, before and after etc, much more so than talking to a counsellor who didn't really know me or my life. If it works for you, go for it, I'm sure nobody minds you talking about Eris, and it probably helps to break the ice with some people who don't know how to broach the subject.

feedmenow · 28/04/2008 17:24

Doobydoo, Wokingham is Surrey. I think Staines is actually Middlesex, but seeing as Middlesex doesn't even really exist then what the hell! Staines is actually my "local" shopping town! Have lived within 5 miles of it all my life (apart from a year in Cardiff for uni...)

Louiseann, I get shopping to Guildford sometimes. In fact I was in House of Fraser just a week or two before Eris was born, sitting up top having tea and toast! I always remember Guildford as being one of the first places to have a Millies Cookies!

Dippymother, does that mean Essex? God, you've reminded me....I remember seeing a girl I went to school with walking around pushing her pushchair, wearing black leggings and white stilettos!

Pixie, nice to see you here. I saw your thread about your boy and have checked it a couple of times to see how you've been doing, but never posted cos I felt that all the others had said it all. But you were in my thoughts, and I'm glad you've come to see us here.

Chegirl, I just looked at Billie's website. She looks beautiful and she sounds like she was truly beautiful on the inside too. I'm glad you managed to find some peace on her birthday.
P.S. lol at the thought of typing with an american accent!

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lottiejenkins · 28/04/2008 17:54

In case anyone didnt know and didnt want to be upset..... Coronation Street(on twice tonight) is covering a stillbirth story tonight.... I dont want to sound patronising but didnt want anyone to watch who might find it upsetting.....

thegrowlygus · 28/04/2008 17:56

Just passing through again - got my Sands newsletter today - seems they are really stepping up the campaigning/fund raising doesn't it? With this Why17 thing. Seems a good idea.

I (despite being medically trained etc etc) didn't realize that stillbirth/neonatal death was so much more common than cot death. But whilst research into SIDS has brought the figures down considerably, those for stillbirth/neonatal death have crept up over 20years. Shocking.

GG

shabster · 28/04/2008 18:05

Thanks for the warning Lottie - I have only just stopped sobbing about the heartbreaking storyline in Emmerdale.

lottiejenkins · 28/04/2008 18:29

The Why17 campaign is being launched at a hotel near me in Suffolk. I got my magazine today as well. I think anything that helps people to try and work out why babies are born early and stillborn can only be a good thing.

feedmenow · 28/04/2008 19:01

Lottie, I knew it was on tonight. I don't normally watch Corrie but feel a bit of a perverse urge to watch for this storyline.

GG and Lottie, I have not heard of the Why17 campaign (although know the reason for the name). Am a member of Sands but have not signed up for the newsletter. I think perhaps I will.

As for the fundraising, I checked our Just Giving page today and see that we have had £1565 of donations to Sands in Eris' memory! Plus I sent a cheque for £100 off to Sands yesterday that my mil's boss had donatated. So our baby has raised £1665!!! I'm very proud, but I wish people were giving the money actually TO her to save for her future as opposed to FOR her

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CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 28/04/2008 20:37

I am watching Coronation St now and so far very unrealistic

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