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no heartbeat at 9 week scan PLEASE HELP!

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jeddah · 14/08/2006 16:15

Hi girls.... some of you might remember me???? I was posting regularly about 1 year ago, but needed a rest.

I have been pregnant 3 times in the last year. Miscarried the first 2 at 5 weeks and 6 weeks, the bleeding just started and it all happened naturally.

Found out I was pregnant on my holiday in Italy in begining of July and because of my 2 miscarriagea, they decided to scan me weekly until I was 12 weeks.

Had 6 week, 7 week and 8 week scan all of which were normal and healthy and very strong heartbeats.

Oh my god we were thrilled and the sign of heartbeats made us completely think 100% we were in the clear!

Anyway last weeks 9 week scan there was no heartbeat and has been the biggest shock of our lives. They told me to go home and it will happen naturally.

I am still sat here waiting!
can someone please advise me on when and what happens, eg how painful? how much blood? when will it happen? anyone had a D+C and concieved again?

I am 42yrs and feel completely hopeless.

thanks in anticipation!

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fattiemumma · 17/08/2006 00:20

oh hun i am so sorry.

Wishing you the very best of luck for tomorrow.

Just wanted to add thati know a fair few people who have conceived after mc.
my aunt had a very similar experiance to yourself. they tried for years to conceive with no luck, she fell pregnant but then lost the baby at about 8 weeks. she had a further 3 MC at around the same time.

she then, aged 39 had my Cousin and then 18 months later had another. it can happen and i hope with all my being it will for you too.

hugs XX

ediemay · 17/08/2006 00:25

jeddah, I hope you get a good rest after this. My best friend, who is now 41 is 32 weeks pg after 6 mcs. She had every test/investigation going but no problems could be found. She says that the only thing she did differently this time was to take a paediatric dose of aspirin during her first 14 weeks - on the consultant's advice. I just wanted to pass this on in case it helps in any way.

fussymummy · 17/08/2006 00:54

jeddah poor you, wish i could give you a big hug.
One of my sisters lost a baby at 9 weeks, she saw her GP as she'd had bad stomach cramps, he told her to go home and get bed rest and if she started bleeding then she'd have to have a D/C straight away.
She had it done and was in hospital for a couple of days.
She said she was glad in a way as she didn't know how she'd have coped with the waiting, and wondering when it'd happen naturally.

She has gone on to have two lovely girls.

Please also ask for another scan, as a friend of mine, last year got told that there was no heartbeat.
When she went for a D/C a few days later she insisted on a scan first as she'd had no pain or bleeding.

She now has a healthy baby boy.

Whatever happens, NEVER GIVE UP

xxx

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jeddah · 17/08/2006 08:38

girls
you are all so very kind. Your messages have really helped me and given me a little hope back

A BIG THANK YOU TO YOU ALL.

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julezboo · 17/08/2006 10:35

Jeddah,

Just wanted to give you a little more hope.

Im so sorry you are going through this right now. I myself have had 5 mc's one quite late but 4 early once between Mar 05 and Mar 06, the ones in mar, dec and Jan where all natural, the Jan one I took 3 weeks to start losing baby.

The Mar 06 Angel, I opted for the D&C, tbh I had mixed emotions but overall I think it was the best decision made. It was over with quickly. We had decided to wait 3 cycles before trying again but fell pg after the 2nd. I am now almost 14 weeks, I was on the aspirin whilst ttc, then I started heparin injections at 4 weeks pregnant.

There is hope honey I promise. Have you had any testing??

Julie x

MerlinsBeard · 17/08/2006 12:42

how did your appt go?

so sorry that you are going thrui this i m/c on 1st june and still having probs but not the place for my stary just wanted to let you klnow taht you weren't alone xx

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jeddah · 17/08/2006 19:29

Just to let you all know how I got on today.

Saw consultant and had my scan. The foetus is still the same size as last week and again (of course) there is no heartbeat. But the gestation sac has grown normally again. So they have also recommened a ERCP (D+C)as they said becuase of the size of the sac there will be alot of bleeding a fair amount of pain.

So I go into hospital tomorrow at 8 am, fasted, for my op. A bit nervous really, general anaesthetic and all that. But cant wait for it to be over.

The consultant said that my foetus was well formed and looked healthy, also the yolk sac looked healthy and the stalk which would have become a placenta, also looked normal and healthy. So becuase of these things they feel it was probably caused by chromosonal problems. I don't know whether this is a good thing or bad???? may be this is because of my age as I realise not all my eggs are good.

But we are booked on the recurrent miscarriage programme for all investigations.

Thanks again for all your hope and reassurance, you have all helped me much more that you realise.

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jeddah · 17/08/2006 19:31

forgot to mention they will send foetus for histopathological analysis anf chromosonal studies.

Has anyone has these tests??????

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andi0411 · 17/08/2006 20:50

Jeddah i don't know the answer to your question but I just wanted to let you know that I am thinking of you and that I am so sorry for your loss. i hope tomorrow goes quickly for you and that you get the answers you need. xx

Uki · 18/08/2006 02:47

Dear Jeddah
Hope your D&C went ok. I have had one and know they can be a little scary. I also just suffered another m/c my 4th at 12 weeks and now how hard it is.
It is good they are going to test the feotus. i haven't had this, but it will be good to rule things out.
Just wanted to tell you that although you are worried about your age, and i know this sounds superficial right now it really is good that you can get pregnant- i'm sure you will get a baby. I don't normally believe in this but i saw a woman on tV who had a baby at 46 thanks to chinese herbs -appartently they can help improve health of your eggs. Worth a try maybee. I am in the process of getting tested as well.

Bye for now

petrified · 18/08/2006 09:24

Good Luck today, hope all goes well.

When you get home just relax and put your feet up.

Thinking of you x

Lilymae8 · 18/08/2006 10:07

Jeddah, I'll be thinking of you today. My baby was stillborn at 23 weeks, and he went for histology reports to check for possible chromosomal problems. The results were really useful, and gave us the confidence to get pregnant again, as it showed that there were no genetic or chromosomal problems. The staff were very respectful of our feelings, and without going into details, we were told we could have seen our baby afterwards if we wanted to. I know your baby was 9 weeks, so this is probably not an option - but I wanted you to know that the staff do understand how precious our babies are, and are respectful of that. I hope this helps. You are in my thoughts.

Lua · 18/08/2006 10:32

Jeddah,
I haven't had a test on the foetus, but I imagine it will be a good thing to get more information. It also is good news that your body is doing a good job with a pregnancy.
All the best of luck!

Tommy · 18/08/2006 11:04

hope it all went ok today

fussymummy · 18/08/2006 13:28

Jeddah, i really hope everything went ok for you today, and that it was all over quickly and as painfree as possible.
Obviously you'll be upset for quite some time, but when you're strong enough you'll try again and hopefully thins will be great next time. xx

pinkranger · 18/08/2006 13:35

Hi Jeddah,
wanted wish you all the best , had d& c yesterday i was 10 weeks baby had died at 6. i hope you are o.k
I have more pain then bleeding today which is a good thing but still fell little drowsey.

Take care xxx

emismum · 18/08/2006 21:46

Hi Jeddah, I've just gone through the same as you. I went for an emergency scan at 12 weeks because I had started to bleed with lots of pain, and we discovered that the baby had died at 9 weeks. I cried in a drk room at the hospital then rang my hubby and he cried; he was looking after our 9 month old daughter who knew something was up and started handing him tissues ! Jeddah, all those terrible feelings of sorrow and loss gradually begin to go away but it does take time and I still feel the loss deeply even though this all happened 8 weeks ago. You will try again and so will I, but don't let anyone hurry you with scare stories that you might be too old (don't know how old you are). I've just turned 44 but had a very health baby girl 11 months ago and feel very lucky. I hope to have at least one more. Have courage and do everything in your own time. xx

SpeckledHen · 20/08/2006 09:50

Jeddah, I am so sorry. I have had lots of mcs myself. My history is: 2 mcs, baby, 3 mcs 9all in 1 year) and then baby. Just to let you know that if you look at the St Mary's recurrent miscarriage website and read Lesley Regan's book you will seethat even after 3 mcs in a row the chances are (more than 50% likely - which to me is good odds) that your next pg will be successful. Also to let you know that you are not alone. In the celebrity world I am aware of Caroine Quentin who had 2 mcs in her early forties as well as 2 babies and also Rachel de Thame also lots of mcs and also babies in her forties. I am trying to find an article in the Times for you about the latter and will post link when I have it.

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jeddah · 20/08/2006 15:26

pinkranger
Hope you are ok today (sunday). To be honest, I am well, much better than I thought. Hardly any bleeding or pain.

The whole experience was ok, the staff were lovely and very kind, I was in and out in 3 hrs! Felt rough on the day (friday), but ok yesterday and today.

Speckledhen
Thanks for your encouragement. I have gone from.... there is something terribley wrong with us and we are destined never to have a baby...... to.....many people have loads of Mcs and gone on to have a baby and we will too.

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jeddah · 20/08/2006 16:57

I has an ERPC on friday. Can anyone tell me when my cycles will start again. I presume as this bleed is a surgical bleed and not a period.... when is the fist day of my cycle?????

is it the start of my next period?

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Tommy · 20/08/2006 19:53

yes - pretty sure you should start counting from the first day of your next period.
After my miscarriage, my next period came exactly a month later but I guess everyone is different.
Hope you're feeling a little better now - thinking of you.

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jeddah · 20/08/2006 20:43

thanks tommy

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emismum · 20/08/2006 21:00

Jeddah, your next period should arrive 4 to 6 weeks after this bleed. My first one was 5 weeks later and the second was 30 days after that. Everyone is different so don't worry if yours is later or earlier than 4 weeks.

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jeddah · 20/08/2006 21:51

thanks emismum.

can't wait to get back to normal. and above all... to try again!

I am 42 yrs and have just realised that I have been pregnant 3 times in the last year.... not bad for an old duffer........ just hope that next time will be the the one.

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emismum · 21/08/2006 08:24

Wow what a fruitful lady you are Jeddah, 3 conceptions in 12 months is some going ! Hope next time you succeed.

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