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Just bloody listen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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NAB3 · 11/10/2007 18:27

How many times do you have to ask them to do something? Don't take any notice of me and answer me back everytime I ask them to do something.

Fed up with it. Very tense stomach with the stress of it all.

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HuwEdwards · 11/10/2007 18:29

attention span of a gnat haven't they?

NAB3 · 11/10/2007 18:33

It's not that. They just don't take any bloody notice.

Feel like crap at the moment and have had the worst week in a long time.

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clarevoiant · 11/10/2007 18:36

Its so frustrating eh? Get right down in front of them face to face, hold them still and tell them to look at you, then tell them very calmly and without shouting (so tempting ) what you want them to do and what the consequence will be if they don't. V important to follow through with the consequence if they don't do what you ask else they won't take you seriously next time.

NAB3 · 11/10/2007 18:37

Give me consequences as nothing bothers them so far

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sKerryMum · 11/10/2007 18:39

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NAB3 · 11/10/2007 18:46

I have tightness of the chest at the moment

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TwigorTreat · 11/10/2007 18:47

we drew up a contract

10 points if you do things first time
0 points if you have to be asked twice
-10 points if I have to ask more than twice

get 100 points and get to choose something

it worked short-term ..and had slightly lasting effects

clarevoiant · 11/10/2007 18:48

How old are they nab?

TwigorTreat · 11/10/2007 18:48

kept a tally chart in the kitchen .. so he could see me rubbing out 10 marks that he'd put up

NAB3 · 11/10/2007 18:52

6 - think he just doesn't think I mean him. An angel at school...

4 - is a different child since starting school, cheeky, answer for everything (just like I was bit a heck of a lot younger) Also an angel at school....

2 - is copying the shouting

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NAB3 · 11/10/2007 18:54

hubby putting them to bed

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LoRayningNewtsAndFrogs · 11/10/2007 19:23

I threw one of DS(2.10) toys away today, in fact, I made him put it in the bin. I have told him time and time again about drawing on things, today he went into my bedroom, into my drawers, found a pen and went downstairs and scribbled on my sofa. Both DP and I were fuming, DP said I'd better deal with it cos he wasn't sure what to do and didnt want to just shout at him, I had warned him that next time he was naughty , really naughty something would be going in the bin.
So we went into his bedroom, I chose a toy he ahsnt played with in about a year, and made him brng it downstairs to put in the big green bin. If any of the neighbours heard they mustve thoguht he was being killed. He has been an angel the rest of the day, because he knows mummy will follow through.

Just the last week or two he has stopped listening to me, he used to always do as he was told, I rarely had to tell him off, and DD(6.10) just seems to have fallen asleep, permanently, like a zombie, she always "forgot", no matter what I said to her.

I try not to get too angry with DD, luckily DP is like it too, so I am used to it, it takes 20 times of asking him something before it happens, which he knows, so he doesnt moan that I'm nagging. But I have learnt to just think of them as airy fairy and laugh at the way they seem to float along oblivious to everything.

Sometimes it is less what they are doing and more why it is making you angry, like DD for example, it's just the way she is, she's head in the clouds, nothing is going to change that, so we work around it, a list of things she ahs to do, constant reminders of what she hazs to do an just try not to get frustrated with it. I think if she was an adult how would I deal with these issues?? I'd ignore it.

As for answering bck, are they just questioning you??? I know you're the boss, but a quick exlanation and they might do as asked. My parents always said 'because I said so' which used to leave me frustrated, so I try to think about how the kids are feeling and why they are questioning me.

If it's arguing and saying they wont do something, they get the look and told, "do you think the best thing for you to do right now is to be arguing with me?", that gives them an opportunity to revise their behaviour, if it carries on, I warn them they will be punished, if they were to continue punsih them I would.

I know a lot of people on MN don't agree with Time Out, but with my DC's it works, they aren't sent to a 'naughty step' but to somewhere to think about their actions, how it made me/them feel and how they could ahve done it better.
They then have to come and tell me how they should have acted, and apologise, cuddles all round, and forgotten.
I don't time it either, they come to me when they are ready to answer my questions and apologise, sometimes it takes seconds, sometimes minutes.

onefootinthegravy · 11/10/2007 19:32

My DD 4.6 has very selective hearing and switches off unless it's something she is interested in. When she's very naughty ie won't do as mummy asks in our house we have 'The Charity Bag' !!
I've explained the concept of charity shops - & that there is a charity shop in town which is 'for children who don't have toys blah blah' and I use this if she's really naughty. TBH we went through a stage when her behaviour got quite bad and this was invented by me when I was having a particularly bad day - and got to thinking the amount of stuff she had compared to me and my age and how she wasn't really grateful - so now she knows (bad mummy alert ) but I have to say it works
Quite a few things have ended up at the charity shop - and yes she has screamed the house down - but these days it's very very rare we get that far - it stop's her in her tracks and usually does what mummy asks

MillieMummy · 11/10/2007 19:36

NAB3, my DD aged 4 has been a nightmare since starting school too. I know she is tired, but I still can't stand having to say everything 20 times. I am trying to stay calm, threats to put toys away in my cupboard work - but cause huge screaming fits so don't feel like a win-win situation.

onefootinthegravy · 11/10/2007 19:37

And If it doesn't work at least you get to declutter the house and get rid of all the toys that get on your nerves

clarevoiant · 11/10/2007 20:45

nab. sorry for break (suddenly got busy).... glad hubby putting/has put them to bed for you, from your other posts, you've been really up against it this week hug

for consequences, I have to admit that we use the 'naughty step' technique for general OTT behaviour but then ds is only just 2, been using it for a few months now and it really seems to work for us, even the threat of it now does the trick.

every situation is different, and I only have 1 ds so I have no idea how it works with 3, i guess they feed off each other to some degree and if your having a bad day you get it in triplicate.

All I would say is be consistant and if you are going to give a consequence for their actions, you have to do it every time, for however long it takes to get the message across (even if it takes you an hour and a half to get them to do their punishment for not doing something that would have only taken 5 mins iyswim)

Hope you have a better day tomorrow.

LoRayningNewtsAndFrogs · 11/10/2007 20:47

The best thing about deciding real standard consequences and rules, ie this happens if they do this etc, will help you feel more in control.

Which in turn stops the shouting, and you feeling tense.

It is hard, but it is manageable, it's just perseverance.

NAB3 · 12/10/2007 13:15

LRNAF Believe me, the kids aren't answering me back because they are questioning me!!! Fair enough if they don't understand why I want them to so something, but this is pure cheek.

DD been on the step twice in the space of half an hour. Is now colouring nicely at the table.

I have bought her a dressing gown today as she has been asking for one, and a pair of plain jeans for is to decorate together, but they are staying in the bag for now.

I have also suggested to DH that he take the youngest one swimming alone on Sunday as he is desperate to go and I feel thet DS1 and DD need to learn there are proper consequences for being the way they have this week.

I know that DH and I are making loads of mistakes but it is bloody hard when you never get a break and are fit to drop through exhaustion.

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udderleyfoxy · 12/10/2007 13:32

I found breaking down crying infront of them very effective one day last week*

NAB3 - that is exactly what it is like here.

*I was having a particularly hard day and I have a new baby (hormones+baby+3 small children+sleep deprivation = meltdown).

But it is all OK... for now!

NAB3 · 12/10/2007 13:49

I don't even have the energy to cry. DD just been on the step again.

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onefootinthegravy · 12/10/2007 13:59

That's a good start - the'll remember not being allowed to go swimming - but I would definately try the charity bag thing That I use - Kids hate things being taken away - it's a real nightmare to start with - but once they know you mean business hopefully the'll respond
Hope things get better x

NAB3 · 12/10/2007 14:04

My husband once took all the toys out of my son's bedroom and put them in the roof but he wasn't bothered.

He cheeked me once when the HV was here and she told me I had a very secure child that he knew he could do that and I would still love him. He was about 4 then, so 2+ years ago.

The other day he said we obviously didn't love him so he would run away.

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LoRayningNewtsAndFrogs · 12/10/2007 14:26

Just ingore the comments about running away etc, he is just looking for a way to rile you.

The cheek, try what I suggested, the first few times they will definitely continue to cheek you, but once they get used to the fact that you will act, they'll think twice.

Personally I wouldnt have bought DD anything if she is playing up, I agree with the swimming thing. We were going to the toy shop once and DS started playing up, so he had to sit in the car whilst DD went in, he was horrified.

Keep up with the step, I personally dont think removing all ym kids toys would make much of an impact on them, they would know mum was just kicking off, the single toy in the bin/charity bag makes more of an impact.

One warning, one punishment, one apology. And try not to over punish IYSWIM, DP will often send one of the kids to time out and then to their room or something, and I have to remind him he can only punish them once, or to them what is the point of behaving?? I know when I was a child I used to get smacked for something as miunte as leaving a cupboard door open, so it just seemed pointless trying so hard. So thats my other adivce, pick your battles, if something can be ignored, then ignore it. That way the times they do get punished seem so much more prominent.