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Anyone actually seen their childs behaviour change after mmr?

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Ally24 · 09/08/2007 13:47

My son will have the mmr vaccine later this year just wondering if anyone has actually seen a definate change in behaviour of their child following it. Or is it all media hype??

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beautifulgirls · 09/08/2007 20:10

Nope not here

kevinsmother · 09/08/2007 20:12

He screamed as the needle went in and that was about it

There is a good website www.mmrthefacts.nhs.uk I found it really useful

fruitymum · 09/08/2007 20:12

DD had hers 2weeks ago and so far no probs.

Desiderata · 09/08/2007 20:13

Nope, all was fine.

laughorcry · 09/08/2007 20:19

Yes, but only temporarily. ds1 had a nasty fever, the shakes and for one day had interference with gait (kept falling over).

He is fine now, but I wish that someone had warned me about these possible side effects. having researched it, they are not that rare (interference with gait is about 1 per cent for example).

I won't hesitate to give it to ds2, despite the side effects - the illneses are potentially much worse imo - but there is no point in pretending they don't exist.

I think that the general stress about MMR has meant that there is insufficient information given about the relatively common, temporary side effects.

SenoraPostrophe · 09/08/2007 20:20

I don't think it's hype as such, but the risks have been heavily exaggerated. A study found a possible connection (not a proven or even a probable connection) and everyone went mad. I did think it was fairly harmless, but measles and mumps are now back with a vengeance, and more importantly, millions have been spent on chasing the possible link between MMR and autism and that money could have been spent on researching other causes and possible treatments for autism. It's a pity.

Leati · 09/08/2007 20:24

My little girl screamed for a few a hours and I was scared. I waited a little longer before her next series and she was fine. I am sure he will be fine but make your self comfortable my reading all the fact and possible side effects.

Good Luck!!!

rantinghousewife · 09/08/2007 20:29

Fwiw, I know a woman who's dd is her PFB to the nth degree, her dh is a medical researcher who says that Wakefield is widely regarded as a bit of a loon. She didn't hesitate to have her child immunised. Similarly all the people I know who work in the medical world had their dcs done.

spiker · 09/08/2007 20:29

The 3 doctors behind the initial study are currently up before the GMC on charges of serious professional misconduct - which is not something the GMC does lightly.

mare · 09/08/2007 20:33

No probs at all - was actually quite worried too as have autistic spectrum relatives on both side of the family. My aunt swears blind my cousin was fine until he had the whooping cough vaccine actually (30 years ago)

Researched single vaccines. Was PG at the time and would have had to get certified immune to one of them ( can;t remember which one!) Also at the time there was NO mumps vaccine available as a single shot as there was a worldwide shortage.

That was all 3 years ago.

Went for MMR in the end - glad I did!!

Had a bit of fever and sore patch on legs where jab went in - otherwise totally fine!!

Bubble99 · 09/08/2007 20:45

No problems here, either.

Three of my boys have had MMR and DS4 will too.

This is an emotive subject as I know there are some mnetters who believe their children have been damaged by the vaccine.

I was surprised, TBH, to read that the Wakefield's findings were based on a group of only twelve children, IIRC.

Also his source of funding must have led to a conflict of interest, IMO.

But I'm sure someone will be along soon with a very different, and possibily more informed, view.

motherinferior · 09/08/2007 20:52

Neither of mine did.

aloha · 09/08/2007 20:55

To say it must have led to a conflict of interest is totally wrong. Of course a scientist can be independent regardless of where the money is coming from.
I think Wakefield has been hounded for political reasons.
This, by Nick Hornby, is well worth reading, in my opinion. 64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:igwpXxqx78EJ:observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,647836,00.html+N ick+Hornby+Wakefield+autism&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk

Bubble99 · 09/08/2007 20:57

Fair point, aloha.

'...Could possibly' is better.

Heathcliffscathy · 09/08/2007 21:00

if i had an autistic child and that child had bowel disease and measles was found in the gut and the child had never had measles except via vaccination and therefore what on earth was it doing in his gut i would argue that a sample of 3 was enough. or even 1.

Bubble99 · 09/08/2007 21:01

Are there other countries using the same MMR single dose vaccine formulation?

It would be useful to know of any reports of suspected vaccine damage from these countries.

motherinferior · 09/08/2007 21:02

But Soph, that would not be enough to argue a trend, or indeed a link with the autism. If it were a one-off, as you say.

berolina · 09/08/2007 21:03

ds had the MMR and was utterly fine, not so much as a temperature - but tbh, as we have one or two slight auto-immune issues in the family, I wasn't thrilled about giving it, and he will not be having the so-called booster - we will give him a single measles before he starts kindergarten if he needs it, and mumps and rubella boosters pre-puberty. For ds2 (due soon) we will definitely go down the singles route.

I'm not anti-vax in the slightest, and MMR is believed to be safe for the majority of children, but I do think there's something in the theory that it can trigger effects including autistic regression in a few individuals.

harpsichordcarrier · 09/08/2007 21:06

but there was prima facie conflict of interest.
which he failed to disclose to his colleagues or the Lancet or the medical authorities. he just took the money and didn't mention it.
why would he not mention the money that he had been paid to find a link (which he didn't find) and who was paying him and the reason for the paper? in any other context, that amounts to a conflict of interest imo.
If I was a colleague of his and hadn't been told I would have been incandescent.

SenoraPostrophe · 09/08/2007 21:25

bubble - there are no questions about mmr in any other country as far as I know. certainly in Spain no-one mentions autism (I asked the nurse and he didn't even know about the hoo ha in the UK)

weebleswobble · 09/08/2007 21:36

Speaking as the mother of a child who reacted badly to the MMR - covered in measles rash and very ill for several days, diagnosed at age 2 with dyspraxia and at age 10 with Crohn's it would be impossible to convince me there isn't a link to the vaccine.

However, if this had not happened and I was faced with the decision to give mmr today or not, I would definately give it.

mslucy · 09/08/2007 21:38

absolutely fine.

RTKangaMummy · 09/08/2007 21:40

NO was deffo fine after ALL of his jabs

foxcub · 09/08/2007 21:44

Mine haven't had MMR (they had single vacs) because three children we know did have reactions.

One is severely autistic and his parents think it is down to MMR.

One regressed (his development dramatically regressed) after the MMR booster when he was 4 and he immediately started fitting and developed severe epilepsy and learning difficulties.

One had febral [sp??} convulsions but was fine afterwards.

Bubble99 · 09/08/2007 21:46

foxie. I'm stalking you in 'Health.'

Advice needed.

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