Anyone actually seen their childs behaviour change after mmr?

[Ally24]

My son will have the mmr vaccine later this year just wondering if anyone has actually seen a definate change in behaviour of their child following it. Or is it all media hype??

Hi Bubble, how goes it?

Absolutely no problems with my two.

nothing with ds or dd1 that I wouldnt deem to be normal of their ages.

Fine, thanks.

Please, come and talk treadmills with me over on 'Health.'

I have had all my children vaccinated with the MMR (dd3 still waiting for her's) with no probs, I always believed that autism will 'reveal itself' at around this age anyway. BUT my nephew had his MMR and before he was saying 'da, da' 'bye, bye' etc progressing as normally as my dd who is 6 weekds younger, they are now 5 and a half he has been diagnosed autistic and says less now than he did at 18 months or whatever age he was, there is history of autism on his Dad's side but his Mum and Grandma believe that it is due to his MMR.

Bubble - only if you come and talk breastmilk with me over in feeding:

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Here in Germany I would say most children have the combined MMR. Many mothers that I have spoken to have never heard of the controversy.

DD and DS both had the MMR and had no adverse affects.

Interesting article, btw. imo even if Wakefield was not influenced by the money, a survey of 12 children is not enough on which to base such a serious allegation.

I remember an article in the Telegraph by their doctor who writes a column - seems a reasonable bloke, and for once didn't toe the NHS party line about MMR ("Just do it, 'cos we say so and we know what's best"). He said that his neighbour's ds was a bright, happy little boy who was speaking well, but regressed within a couple of weeks of having the jab.

I wish they would come up with something definative. My dch haven't been done, and I do worry about them getting the diseases. My DH is a scientist, but says you can't discount the parents' stories - about 300 IIRC are suing because they consider their dch damamged by the vaccine.

My kids have been fine DD has had 2 MMRs and DS as had his first.
Some parents are convinced there child has been vaccine damaged, and i'm not saying they're not right, but you take a risk whatever you do.

My nephew is autistic and my brother/sister in law are convinced it was due to the MMR as it was immediately (within days) following the jab that major behavioural changes in him began. They cannot believe its merely coincidental with the age.
I am due to have ds done soon, but am seriously considering single jabs, as I just don't feel I can take the risk.

macmama, you're right about Germany. MMR is pretty much orthodoxy. But both of ds's doctors (all children here go to paediatricians), despite energetically supporting MMR, have been prepared to listen to my concerns and our current one is happy to go with our plan to not give the 'booster'. The autism controversy is not well-known over here - there is, however, a wider movement of people who are against vax in general.

@berolina
Yes, I have heard from many friends (and my darling SIL) that some parents are very anti-jabs.

My paediatrician has advised me to get the DCs vaccinated against meningokokken c. He said that it was compulsary in UK. Is that true?

I know that the original study was done on a small number of kids and can't really be classed as fact, but '300 parent's are sueing' and there's going to be more, my sil for example, there's no smoke without fire imo, HOWEVER, I do believe the risk is tiny.

Macmama ,no vaccination is not compulsory at all in the UK but Meningitis C is routinely vaccinated against at 3,4 and 12 months.

Don't think any jabs are compulsory in the UK - it might be in the established schedule, though. - Oh, I think it might be in the 5 in 1, or something?

Haven't had the Men C done - do want to look into it, though -, but did insist on the Prevenar for Pneumokokken (I don't think it's in the official schedule yet - it certainly wasn't when ds had it).

I agree that 300 children is a lot, and that the parents don't seem to be getting much support.

I also think it is a shame that so much money has been wasted on this proving/disproving this study that would have been put to better use discovering a safe vaccine (and helping the children that have been affected)

My paediatrician is very keen for us to have the Men c done, 2 children have just died last month, in the town next to ours.

Must phone the Krankenkasse, I think we have to pay for it ourselves.

The MMR is a safe vaccine for the vast majority of people, all vaccines go through alot of testing before they are 'released' into general use!
Unfortunately there are always going to be people who have awful reactions to vaccines or any medication but for most of the population these vaccines will cause no harm at all, just provide the protection they need.

Berolina are you in Germany too? Pneumococcal vaccine is in the ordinary schedule now in UK. Are you Uk citizens? Could you not come back for the MenC jabs if you are so you don't have to pay?

Yes, I'm in Germany. Unfortunately, at 35 weeks pg coming back is not an option in the near future

We got Prevenar free (well, paid for on insurance) because it is covered for 'particularly vulnerable' children and the doctor interpreted that rather liberally (ds is a picture of health and always has been - I think he put down that I have asthma as the reason). I actually think my insurance would probably pay for the Men C as well, as it has been 'recommended' although not put in the schedule yet.

(that should not read as 'unfortunately I am 35 weeks pg'!)

berlina at your unfortunate pregnancy

macmama - have googled, it seems that since last year the Krankenkassen pay for Men C.

oh, great. We would have paid for it anyway, but considering how much Beiträge we pay, I am glad they will cover it.

@ally
Sorry for completely hijacking your mmr thread