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why can't my 22m dd talk?

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lucyellensmum · 09/05/2007 13:25

why can't my little girl talk, i see that other children her age are talking the hind legs off several donkeys. I thought i did it all right, im always talking to her, reading, singing but clearly i've fucked up. Feeling V sad just now

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lucyellensmum · 10/05/2007 16:26

blueshoes, i have a PhD in fly genetics (weird i know!), so maybe she is just a genius like her mum (yeah right ). She bum shuffled and walked late, my HV has suggested taht she will be dyslexic, which is why im worried, i think her dad is dyslexic

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elsieanjoanne · 10/05/2007 16:50

my dd 11months says loads of stuff she doesnt shut up! she uses two an three words together, i have constantly talked with her telling her what im doing babbling at her tha sort of stuff this am she has attempted singing happy birthday to my younger sis, yet her cousin 8 months has limited words an one of her first was Elsie(my dd)

blueshoes · 10/05/2007 17:02

hi elsie, you have every reason to be proud your dd is so advanced speechwise . I believe lucyellensmum has said she also talks and sings to her dd but to no avail - yet anyway. Children will talk when they are ready - whether it is one year, 2 or 3 or 4 - it depends on the child. Barring specific issues, like deafness, which should of course be investigated as early as possible, it will all happen in good time, hth. Easier said than done, I know.

Leander · 10/05/2007 17:07

Lucyellensmum- My dd Had her 2 year development review today and I was thinking about you.When talking about her speech I said that she has a range of words and we understand her most of the time and she said that was fine she asked if she was stringing 2 words together I said not really but sometimes she says Joe school or daddy work juice please and she said that is perfectly fine.Please try not to worry too much about her, reading all the replys on here all children devlop at different ages.My niece didnt speak alot and db was concerned but now you cant shut her up she is 2.9 yrs.

blueshoes · 10/05/2007 17:28

hi lucyellensmum, just saw your post. A geneticist, esp in flies, must surely qualify! Isn't that like rocket science . And what does your HV know about whether a 2 year old is dyslexic!!! She speaks out of her proverbial

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crunchie · 10/05/2007 20:40

at 19 months I took dd1 took see the pediatrician, she wasn't walking or talking (she was prem) and he asked me if she 'needed' to do either. EG could ahe get around, climb on furniture, climb stairs etc. Could she make herself understood?

The answers were yes to both. At 20 months she started walking and at 22 months started talking. At 2 I started a list of teh words she said, we got to around 20, by 2yr and 2 weeks I lost count!!

christywhisty · 10/05/2007 21:08

My son swallowed a dictionery the Friday before his 2nd birthday. He just woke up one morning and was spouting new words all day.

boo64 · 10/05/2007 21:26

Elsie - I hope you don't mind me saying this but I think your post is a little insensitive in the context of this thread.

Of course you should be proud of your little one's talking but surely posting on here about how much your 11m old dd talks and how she says loads of stuff does not help anyone like Lucy Ellen's mum who has a toddler of around 2 who isn't talking. Not only does it not help but by saying your tiny 11 m old is talking away actually does the opposite.

Please could you think about what you are trying to achieve before posting. If you want to be happy and boast about your dd that's fine - we all do it and it's part of being a parent to delight in their achievements - but maybe choose your thread better?

I appreciate that maybe you were just trying to compare your dd with her relative and saying all kids are different but....

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lucyellensmum · 10/05/2007 21:45

i guess you have to get thick skinned about boasting parents, but then if they weren't around perhaps some of us with worries would not have so many! It reminds me of a woman at play group last week, her DD is just two and her speach is amazing, well to me it is anyway, and i had mentioned to her that my DD is going to need speach therapy. So, last week at M&T she said to her dd "stop making noises like XY, you can speak properly and he is nearly a year younger than you" my dd is about at his level, she is lucky that i have self control, i am not sure if it was directed at me but when i glared at her she dropped her gaze, bitch! The same mother was also heard comparing the childrens looks FGS! of course no worries for me, my dd is by far the prettiest there But to be fair to elsie, she may have been trying to make a point, im sure she wouldn't be quite so insensitive.

Is fly genetics rocket science? hardly But it is more interesting than it sounds. Although i am hoping dd doesnt have such a late start as i did, i left school with no qualifications at all and went back as a mature student. Part of my motivation was to "flip the bird" to my biology teacher who wouldn't enter me for "O" level biology as he didnt think i was up to it!

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lucyellensmum · 10/05/2007 21:48

speech, not speach! my spelling never was any good.

Thankyou everyone though, your posts have made me feel much better. We have our first speech therapy "lesson" next week so am looking forward to that.

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christywhisty · 10/05/2007 21:50

There is a connection between non crawlers and dyslexia. The British Dyslexia Assocaition say it one of the indicators. So the HV is not talking rubbish
Son never crawled and he has dyslexic traits, but he is still a very bright intelligent boy.

The point I was making re son swallowing a dictionary is the way he developed, he often looked like he was no where near a developmental milestone, then the next day he would be doing it like an expert.

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lucyellensmum · 10/05/2007 21:58

christy, you are right in what you say, there is definately a link between bum shufflers and dyslexics. A high proportion of dyslexics didnt crawl. I didnt crawl, neither did dp. Now i am blatantly a genius (joking) whereas DP can't spell for toffee and had trouble with reading at school. He has an amazingly practical mind though and is very good with his hands (now now - he is a carpenter!). I have absolutely no common sense, and STILL cannot reliably tell my left from right (a dyslexic trait). DD was a bum shuffler, walked late (like her dad - i walked at 9 months - preen). When i spoke to the SALT about this though (and dyspraxia, more of a worry!) she said they wont diagnose until she is six. I didn't think you were boasting about your sons strange eating habits either by the way .

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christywhisty · 10/05/2007 22:08

Lucyellensmum
Your DP sounds like my DH.Not sure about DH's crawling habits but he couldn't read until he was 12, probably would have been diagnosed dyslexic nowadays, but he is now an electronics engineer.

jenkel · 10/05/2007 22:13

Because she is only 22 months. My dd said her 1st recognizable at 24 months. Not all children develop the same skills at the same age. You will do more harm by stressing yourself out about it to both yourself and your little girl.

Bubble99 · 10/05/2007 22:13

lucyellensmum.

I haven't read the whole thread so sorry if I'm repeating previous experiences.

DS1 didn't really speak until he was 2 years and 8 months. We went for speech-therapy, did Makaton etc. He started speaking when he went to nursery. Prior to that he could say 'there' and that was about it.

He's 9 and a half now and doesn't stop talking.

pigalow · 10/05/2007 22:18

My oldest daughter who is now 16 said virtually nothing til she was 3! She had loads of hearing tests etc but noone could find anything wrong. She now has 9 grade A and A* GCSE, AS modules taken so far are all grade A and wants to do Maths at uni. She is clearly very bright and academically above average - no correlation with early or late speech at all.

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lucyellensmum · 11/05/2007 08:33

not going to M&T this morning because of the woman who made the snide comment re speech, so feeling a bit cheesed off. I know i shouldnt let her get to me but if she says something else it will turn into an argument so best i keep away Me and DD are going to plant our beans instead

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blueshoes · 11/05/2007 10:04

FWIW, the Chinese believe that late talkers are clever. Terrible generalisation, I know, but it is comforting to think that your dd is incubating latent genius . You know what they say about people who laugh last ...

Happy planting!

TooTicky · 11/05/2007 13:57

Hope you enjoyed planting your beans (dd2 and I planted ours a few days ago ) but really hope you don't feel hounded away from M&T by this horrible woman. Are there nice people there too? I hope so.

TooTicky · 11/05/2007 13:59

I have also heard that people who struggle with speech at the start are likely to be very good at it later on.

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lucyellensmum · 11/05/2007 14:40

the beans are in, planted some more seeds too, and some tomato's and one of the courgettes (well someone has to feed the snails) Fingers crossed, first attempt at home grown

We didnt go to baby group, usually everyone there ok but i think i was just not in the mood for it this morning, it was this mothers childs 2nd birthday and i didnt want to be churlish or anything, but im immature enough not to be able to suppress the resentment, which is a shame because she is a lovely little girl, who always says "look munny, theres lucy"!!!!!! gulp. Poor wee lucy just points and smiles

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becaroo · 11/05/2007 19:20

If it makes you feel any better my GP, when told of HV concerns, just laughed and said that young babies and infants cant read and so dont understand all the charts/statistics and goals they are supposed to have achieved by a certain date....made me feel much better and of course he was totally right.

He also said that late talking was a sign of intelligence, but that my just have been to get me out of the surgery!!

BTW, that mother at the M&T sounds like she needs a good slap!!!

God...some people!!

BandofMothers · 12/05/2007 07:38

How the hell can they tell she may be dyslexic at her age. My dd1 didn't crawl til her first birthday, but had loads of words by then. She didn't walk til she was 19 mths, but you could hold a conversation with her at age 2. She never shuts up now at 3.5, how ever much I sometimes wish she would
Are they basing the possibly dyslexic on her speech?? Or why do they say that.??[nosy sorry]

fortyplus · 12/05/2007 09:12

ds1 is 13. He could speak in complete sentences when he was 18 months. He's reasonably bright, but nothing exceptional academically. A friend I met at ante-natal classes was frustrated that her ds didn't speak at all until nearly 2.5. Her son is a genius - achieved level 6 Maths in year 6, plays piano grade 6 already, member of National Gifted & Talented Youth Programme etc etc. He's exceptional.

So don't fret - your dd is just waiting until she has something useful to say!