nearly 2 my kid is an asshole

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Can someone please advise what's the average age from and until MOST kids go through their "ass-hole" stage.
My daughter was the perfect baby, and is a pretty good toddler, but as the saying goes, when she's nice she's very nice but when she's bad she's evil!!

Please no replies about how your kids always been amazing, doesn't really help! Or how your kid is 6 and kills puppies, I'm just looking for a general overview of an average naughty child as I only have one and have no other experience of kids. Thanks! :D

Wow to some of the responses to this clearly tongue in cheek thread and people thinking a 2 yo can't possibly be deliberately naughty!

My DD is 2.10 and is a complete moo some days! Her behaviour is definitely asshat asshole/ass-hole whatever like!
She is wilful! She will do something I tell her not to just to get a reaction out of me.
Yeah yeah Wilk it's all a learning process and I agree with you to a degree, BUT you do need to realise that after the learning comes the manipulation, and believe me it is there. If you've not experienced it, well lucky you. I get it every single day with DD

I got away with it with my DSs and was quietly smug revelling in having another child, who would be nice and laid back too. Hahaha, boy was I wrong. Each day DD brings me a new challenge.

Is she an asshole some days? Yes. Do I love her any less? No

I have to say though, some of her tantrums are hilarious, and when I laugh at her she gets this little crosspatch face as if to say "Well that's not the reaction I wanted"

Fortunately we are getting past the worst of this now and DD is capable of listening to reason, less and less tantrums as she is realising that I won't have it, and she doesn't get what she wants.

Although, we have hit a slight back chat phase already, I wasn't prepared for that yet!
I am a 'meany' a lot at the moment, much to my amusement. Every time I don't do something DD wants, I'm a meany haha

I really do think you get out what you put in. Children are challenging some times - you need to come to terms with that. There is 'no' magic age in childhood where those challenges will cease as a new one will pop up. My eldest is 7.5 and can be crabby when he's not eaten and he's smart so I will get some quite sophisticated retorts if he's not keen on something. I've never once thought of him as you think of a baby - essentially. I have a 3 year and she's quite serious, has her moments but again I just remember she's 3- I don't take it to heart. Both of them are really beautiful so that helps there cause, not anywhere close to the image of what the label 'arsehole' conjures up.

Their not 'there'

Thank you SoonMeansNever, I think I can last until 4, it's more the nature of the behaviour that drives me round the bend, I don't expect naughty behaviour to vanish, just become slightly more rational!
Like when she throws herself on the ground in town because she doesn't want to walk, so I carry her and that's completely out of the question, then to final resort - the dreaded pram! NO chance she's willingly getting in that....well that just leaves levitation then, which I haven't quite grasped!

I know RalphGnu, I'm tutting myself over that hypen! (is there some difference between a hypenated and un-hyphenated ass-hole I don't know about?).

On the bright side my daughters looking a whole lot less ass-holey in comparison to a couple of people on this thread! ;)

Ha, I'm not sure I'm going to make it til he's 4 at this rate! Today he froze in the middle of the road and told me he would squash the cars with his feet.
I've given up most forms of persuasion, he gets 1...2....3... then manhandled into the pram - I've got the baby in the sling so have zero chance of carrying a wriggling toddler with the strength of a baby gorilla!
If I'd had had enough hands to type, I'd have listed him on eBay by 5pm today.

Sorry to break it to you but 4 is just an extension of 2 and 3.... in other words more of the same but in a slightly more 'reasoned' way. My just 4yo completely ruined dh's birthday meal the other day - fidgeted and crawled across the table so much he sent a glass of water and a bottle of beer flying, moaned and whinged because he wanted his dinner NOW and then refused to eat it when it turned up. And then had the audacity to demand a pudding (which he didn't get). That day he had 4 time outs and flew into rages every time we refused to bow to his demands. The waitress was very sympathetic and said they improve around age 8

Ime they all have good days and bad days, whatever age. Even as their vocabulary improves, if you have a particularly wilful one they will just argue differently and dig their heels in. Ds has had several weeks of excitement and travelling which probably didn't help. And he's had a cold too which probably caught up on him. On a good day he's loving, funny, engaging, compliant, beautifullly behaved and well mannered. On a bad day he's... an arsehole! And i say that safe in the knowledge that i would die for him, such is the love i have for him. Parenthood is weird.

Blimey didn't know so many people owned a high horse!!!

My 2 year old Dd just walked across the room, shoved her 4 yo brother, ran back and started bawling!!! Could not believe my eyes! I only have limited sympathy for him as she has learned from the best! This morning he asked me if we could "get rid of this little girl", as he would prefer his friends baby sister!!!

Haha - the title alone cracked me up! DH would love this, he often mutters to me about our DS behaving like an asshole. I have no words of wisdom OP, they can be little horrors at times and mine drive me up the wall. DS has been a challenge from the off. You're not alone.

If an adult screamed in your face, hit you, or deliberately broke something of yours, you'd call them an asshole.....I appreciate they're only littlies, but it's still incredibly testing. All this 'they're still babies until they're 4' and ' they can't communicate' doesn't wash with me once they've hit a certain age. Mine are 2.5 and 1.5 years and they perfectly understand me and have done from around a year old, they are also both brilliant communicators and have tons of language. Doesn't stop them trying it on though. DS at 18 months absolutely knows not to pull my hair but he still does it frequently and laughs in my face as he does it then pretends to cry or just throws a tantrum when I tell him off and plonk him down. If that's not being an asshole I don't know what is

(I did find between the ages of 1 and 2 really hard with DD though and it's the same with DS, whereas she's improved after turning 2 and I've high hopes for DS doing the same).

I HEAR YOU !!! I have brought up two girls now in their late twenties and now have a grandchild age 3 , and yes your absolutley right, they are arseholes at the age of two up until around the age of twenty five !!!! You will look back and laugh in years to come (many many years) !!! And your right, why sugar coat ?? The idea of asking for advice on here is because your asking for advice, not a good slating. Good luck with the little arsehole mrs xxx

And by the way I only happened to come across this discussion as I had Googled "kids are arseholes", so your not alone xxxxxx