2nd dry night for ds 7.4. Is this it?!

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Ds has had very few dry nights in his life, and even fewer of these have been in a row.

At 5 he had his HUGE (surgeon said biggest he'd seen) tonsils and adenoids removed due to sleep apnea.
Dr had mentioned that his brain was so concerned about keeping him breathing, it didn't care if he wee'd but that this would likely resolve itself after surgery.
It did, for 3 nights.

Fast forward a couple of years solid of brick-heavy pants every morning (and occasional wet beds too despite pants), we are on our second morning in a row of bone dry pants.

I don't want to be too outwardly excited at home in front of ds as he can't control it, so I want to be excited here please!

Could this be it, or just a lucky streak?

Yes our ds's experiences do seem very similar!!
One thing I've been wondering is that my ds has been under the weather slightly for months now. He wasn't gaining weight, lost a little even and was pale, tired and just not himself. This all coincided with his relapse. He had blood tests to see what was wrong with him and nothing major showed but he was low on iron, vit k and calcium. So I've been giving him supplements ever since (maybe 3 weeks worth by now). I'm wondering if his body is feeling slightly stronger now and is able to cope better at holding in the wee at night? Just a thought I've had today though! Might just be coincidental

It could well be - but the placebo effect could also be at work, couldn't it.

I'm not fussed whether something is "real" or a placebo - if it's getting DS to the point when he is not scared to wake up in the morning because he is no longer anticipating the bitter disappointment of heavy pull-ups - then it's fine by me!

First commando night dry.

So now for a second...

Eeek!

oh and hi to hello and august, super busy at work but I see you're settling in well

How was last night lemon?

Another wet night here last night. He did take himself to the toilet at about 11.30pm but was wet by 6.30am.
We have decided to go back to basics and keep a really close eye on drinking enough, and trying to increase bladder strength. DS is getting frustrated that it is two steps forwards, one step back. So we are making a big effort to ensure he is drinking large glasses of water every 1 - 1 1/2 hours, trying to challenge himself to wait a bit longer each time he goes to the toilet, double-voiding his bladder before bed.
I've had a letter to say our next follow up appointment is due so I need to arrange that.

Those small hours have a lot to answer for

Morning, still going one night dry one night wet at the minute.

Can I ask do you all attend an enuresis clinic? We have been seeing a nurse for 3 years now, plus my own GP who's own son only recently stopped bedwetting at 11 - however, while I find them very friendly and understanding I was wondering if an actual clinic would give us more support/advice. Most of what I know I got from the ERIC website at their recommendation, I don't even know if we have a clinic at our hospital.

We do attend an enuresis clinic. It is very much early stages seeing if non-medical techniques will solve it. Our GP (we have now changed surgery though) wouldn't refer DS but his consultant paediatrician referred him after I mentioned the bed-wetting during an allergy appointment.

We never did, only mentioned it at ds's sleep clinic as part of his sleep apnoea diagnosis.
I used mn, and the eric site

He did it! And having gone to bed rather late, and in a foul mood, too. (Excessive faffing led to maternal threat to withdraw story time, which led to more faffing, which led to mother carrying out threat, which led to epic tantrum... Sigh). But he did it, via a long wee at about 11.

We've never been to the doc, as we felt that DS hadn't got any daytime issues, and we wanted to try the self-help route first, given how long it can take to get a referral. Then it sorted itself (hohoho ho) but decided to carry on with the alarm when it all went pear-shaped again. It's taken a lot longer this time, and progress hasn't been as linear - more of a stop-start, with setbacks along the way, and it has been much harder keeping DS positive.

What has helped have been looking together at the Eric website so that he understands his body and why it's not his fault. He has felt very empowered by knowing where he keeps his kidneys and bladder we've gone back to them at low points, too - but the detailed discussion that we had together back in the summer was when he started to feel less defeated about it all.

I really do feel that the physiology vs psychology balance will be different for every child, and will vary along the process. For instance, back in the spring it was totally a physical, hormonal thing for DS, but putting it right did seem also to need the right state of mind. I'm most definitely NOT saying that it's mind over matter, like a smug parent whose child cracked it at three, and for which the poor deluded souls like to take the credit, but it certainly never looked further away than when he was beating himself up over it. Unpacking the complexities of it all is where perhaps some professional help may have assisted. Had things not started to improve when they did,I think that we would have been starting to look at the medical route.

The more Drynites we have stockpiled, the more likely he seems to be dry!

We looked a lot at MN, too. It's partly why we document every change here, as the broader the bank of experiences described, the more likely posters are to find a scenario that mirrors their own.

I for one am very grateful for you all sharing your experiences, it's good to know what other people fine works and doesn't.

DD recently started daytime wetting again which she hadn't done for about 5 months but that seems to have stopped again over the last 10 days thankfully. I too am trying to make sure she drinks plenty through the day but she sometimes has urgency problems, I know the daytime wetting is probably linked to the setback in night wetting.

I know I shouldn't be too disheartened because although she is sometimes wet at night she is still holding it enough to get to the toilet and there is rarely anything on the bed.

It sounds like she's fluttering on the verge of "being there", August. The whole of the last month for us has been very "will-he-won't-he", with the night wees that you have described, ie almost dry, but not quite. I really hope that it comes right for you both soon. I'm not going to assume anything this time, though.

Well we have had 9 nights in a row dry and ds has decided to go to bed tonight with no night nappy on. Eek!!

Such a brave moment, Hellikittycat - for you! You won't sleep much; trust me... It'll be worth it, so fingers crossed. DS is on night #3 commando.

Any news, Hellokittycat?

(Resisting any temptation to do a Tom Jones impression by bellowing, "what's up, pussycat")

Ha ha. Mixed success I think last night!
The bed was dry but his pants were a bit wet and a little bit came through to his pj bottoms but not enough to actually get the bed wet. So nearly dry!!

Hope everyone else had a good night last night??

That's brilliant news hello!

Fantastic! Dry for us, too - so three nights commando.

Still not ready to abandon the alarm, though.

How's things, everyone? Tonight's our seventh night commando - and it's so far, so good...

Woo Hoo!

DS is nearly 8 and we're on our twelfth millionth attempt at getting him out of night nappies. We seem to have a wet bed every 3rd night, so were persevering having gone back to nappies every other time.

I'm going to see the GP practice nurse about it next week as I'd like to try an alarm.

Trixy, I just bought one for ds off of amazon. lemon made me