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2nd dry night for ds 7.4. Is this it?!

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Whereisegg · 26/04/2014 10:48

Ds has had very few dry nights in his life, and even fewer of these have been in a row.

At 5 he had his HUGE (surgeon said biggest he'd seen) tonsils and adenoids removed due to sleep apnea.
Dr had mentioned that his brain was so concerned about keeping him breathing, it didn't care if he wee'd but that this would likely resolve itself after surgery.
It did, for 3 nights.

Fast forward a couple of years solid of brick-heavy pants every morning (and occasional wet beds too despite pants), we are on our second morning in a row of bone dry pants.

I don't want to be too outwardly excited at home in front of ds as he can't control it, so I want to be excited here please!

Could this be it, or just a lucky streak?

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Whereisegg · 10/03/2015 09:09

Lifting is very much discouraged, have you had a look at the Eric website?
There really is a wealth of experience and tips on this thread if you get a chance to read through.

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Whereisegg · 10/03/2015 09:11

MyChildren, how old is he again?
I have to say I'd have been tempted to say that I couldn't be bothered to change the bed so he needs to do it (depending on age) Wink

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mychildrenarebarmy · 10/03/2015 09:32

He is 8 now Egg. He does help with bed changes if I'm doing it. I am trying to get my husband to understand/remember that he needs to be properly woken up when he wets. It's no good swiftly helping him change then tucking him up cosy in our bed while his bed is changed. ;) We are only a week in to having the alarm so I hope it will change soon, last night it was twice in the end!

The first time the alarm went off when we got it was slightly amusing though, DD went up to bed after Guides but came down and said "mini barmy's alarm is going off and he won't get out of bed. I tried telling him, but he punched me on the nose."

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Whereisegg · 10/03/2015 12:38
Grin It didn't wake ds up for ages, I'd be shaking his shoulders and practically shouting his name over and over, it was awful and strangely hilarious all at the same time Shock
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tostaky · 10/03/2015 18:43

Yes at did looked at Eric website but apart from encouraging my day time wetter to drink more i did not find much. Maybe i should have another look.
Thanks for remimding me.
I will tell DP not to lift DS1 anymore.
Should i wait for DS2 to be dry during the day before i stop lifting him in the night? He is 5 yo.

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Whereisegg · 11/03/2015 08:09

Well lifting isn't recommended at all, it seems that you are encouraging them to pee whilst (half) asleep and if you do it at the same time every night then you are sort of training them to pee at that time.

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tostaky · 18/03/2015 19:07

The first night we didnt lift, they both peed in the early hours. Then the last two nights they were both dry.... Is this it? If it is then that was easy!!! Too much worrying for nothing!im glad i read the thread Smile

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Whereisegg · 18/03/2015 22:28

It might be it, I wouldn't get too excited Wink
It took ds a good couple of weeks with the alarm seeming to do bugger all, then.... ta da!

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tostaky · 20/03/2015 13:36

Still no bedtime accidents! Great!
Next - any advice on daytime wetting for a 5yo boy (rarely poo accident too).
Ive tried increasing his fluid intake as recommended on the ERIC website but it is really hard to make him drink more fluids. Ive tried sticker chart too + motivational speech by paedetrician : nothing has worked. Still2 or 3 accidents a day.

tostaky · 20/03/2015 13:38

My 5 yo does sometimes complain of a pain above the groin area (where you would have a c-section scar) but thats very occasional. Im taking him to the GP but i dont think it could be a UTI. His daytime wet accidents have been going on since i temoved the nappy for potty training.

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Whereisegg · 20/03/2015 16:42

I don't have any advice on daytime wetting really.
Is it happening at the same times, or when he's really engrossed in something fun?
Keeping a food diary might help to rule out any sensitivity to foods.
Is he doing a huge wee or a dribble?

Would def rule out a uti Smile

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Whereisegg · 20/03/2015 16:42

Oh and hurrah for dry nights! Grin

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Fresh01 · 22/03/2015 22:00

We are still here too. DD is wearing pull-ups at night, she isn't keen but agreed. She deals with them herself but I have been checking the bathroom bin and they are wet about 5 days out of 7.
Still refuses to wear the alarm. Apart from waiting in not sure what to do next.....

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Whereisegg · 27/04/2015 15:41

Anyone seen lemon about?

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mychildrenarebarmy · 30/04/2015 09:14

No, but a search on her name shows a few posts elsewhere in the last few weeks. I hope it's going well for her and her DS.

I am feeling very optimistic here. We have now had the alarm for nearly 9 weeks. It was very hit and miss to begin with, and we had a few positive nights after a couple of weeks then it went completely out the window. It wasn't looking too good but we have stuck with it. For the last 12 nights now he has been dry and in the last month we have only had 4 wet nights.

I made some notes last time we went to see the nurse about what to do when it turned round, and I'm darned if I can find them! There was something about really challenging him by giving a big glass of water at bedtime. Must look harder!

mychildrenarebarmy · 06/05/2015 15:55

18 nights. 18 nights!!!!!!!!

Fresh01 · 07/05/2015 11:49

That is fantastic mychildren.

We got an appointment with the Enuresis clinic. She was good for working out that DD was drinking half of what she should be drinking in the day. We have now doubled what she is drinking in a day and seeing what happens.....
We had tried everything else she was suggesting already.
She did say nighttime wetting won't stop till her other daytime wetting and constipation issues are sorted out. She said a lot of bed wetting is linked to constipation.
But we have had to ditch the pull ups again as they don't help the process of helping stopping bed wetting only saves with the laundry....

mychildrenarebarmy · 07/05/2015 14:48

We were told the same about bedwetting/constipation link and it does make sense.

The alarm for us is/was the last step before medication and I really didn't want to go down that road!

Fresh01 · 07/05/2015 22:18

Mychildren, the Paediatrician tried my DD on DesmoMelt and Ditropan last Autumn. Neither was changing anything so we took her off them again. So the medication route isn't guaranteed to work either.......

tostaky · 10/05/2015 21:28

Thank you for suggesting to stop lifting my children. It worked a treat on DS2 and has improved DS1. My life has changed... I am not constantly washing bedsheets!!

Now I am wondering, DS3 is turning 3 soon. He has been dry during the day for almost 6 months now. When should i remove the nappy at night?

tostaky · 10/05/2015 21:31

Ps: day wetting still a problem for DS2... I am now thinking it could be a sign for a much bigger problem like being on the (low) sprectrum for asd (there are other signs)

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Whereisegg · 11/05/2015 06:55

Lots of lovely news all round then!
I can't remember when ds started on this dry run but it must be months and months now, with one random wet night.
Very happy here Smile

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tostaky · 11/05/2015 09:30

Fantastic! You must be very pleased!

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Whereisegg · 12/05/2015 08:29

It's lovely not to be washing so much although I can't quite bring myself to get rid of the dry nites from the airing cupboard Grin

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mychildrenarebarmy · 13/07/2015 13:18

I'm just resurrecting this thread because it has now been so long that DS has been dry that I would have to look back through the charts for the nurse to see how many nights. :D

The final key for us has been the alarm. It was hard going to begin with, but after a few weeks it started to help. Then all of a sudden he was dry. Now the alarm is back in the box waiting to be returned to the enuresis clinic (along with a huge great big thank you!).

Whereisegg and Lemonsole, thank you to both of you in particular on this board for helping me stay sane and hopeful. Flowers