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2nd dry night for ds 7.4. Is this it?!

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Whereisegg · 26/04/2014 10:48

Ds has had very few dry nights in his life, and even fewer of these have been in a row.

At 5 he had his HUGE (surgeon said biggest he'd seen) tonsils and adenoids removed due to sleep apnea.
Dr had mentioned that his brain was so concerned about keeping him breathing, it didn't care if he wee'd but that this would likely resolve itself after surgery.
It did, for 3 nights.

Fast forward a couple of years solid of brick-heavy pants every morning (and occasional wet beds too despite pants), we are on our second morning in a row of bone dry pants.

I don't want to be too outwardly excited at home in front of ds as he can't control it, so I want to be excited here please!

Could this be it, or just a lucky streak?

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Whereisegg · 16/09/2014 15:57

Hoping that no news is good news from you both Smile

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mychildrenarebarmy · 16/09/2014 20:01

Very up and down here unfortunately. About even between wet and dry for the last couple of weeks.

Lemonsole · 18/09/2014 12:06

Well, we're getting on for three weeks into term, and he set a fairly regular pattern from the start, of an alarm around ten-ish, which he sometimes did and sometimes did not wake up for, and which sometimes did and sometimes did not have any wee left over for the loo. He would then go through to morning, dry, and wake up for a huge wee.

Last night we had a 10pm as usual - but then I heard a couple of bleeps in the small hours. I went in, and he said that he had woken up without knowing why, realised that it was because he needed the loo when he started to wee, and so zoomed to the loo. The couple of beeps were drops left in his pull-ups when he went back to bed.

This was great. He's always been better at waking later rather than earlier in the night - but that he woke at all is just wowzer and - err- totes amazeballs! Grin

It may or may not be the start of something great!!

Whereisegg · 24/09/2014 11:38

I honestly think we have cracked it, no accidents at all as yet.
I hope nobody thinks I am crowing though, as I think of you both often and can't wait for you to come back and be able to say the same Smile Thanks

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mychildrenarebarmy · 24/09/2014 11:49

That is absolutely wonderful egg. I am honestly happy for you and your son, and don't think you are crowing at all. Even if you were then it would be entirely reasonable! It gives me hope that my DS will get there eventually. He is having 2 or 3 wet nights a week at the moment which is a long way from where we were!

Lemonsole · 29/09/2014 12:17

Stay with us, Egg! Only the most churlish could say that you were crowing. You're right to be pleased and proud - as I know I will be once we're back in the saddle.

Anyhows... After our breakthrough last week we had a few nights of the usual wet-at-10-then-dry-till-morning pattern, a few nights of being wet twice in the night, and a couple of fallen-off alarms. (So wet)

Last night (drumroll) he woke up and went to the loo at about 11:30, without remembering it in the morning. He was dry. Grin

Trying not to get tooooooo excited - but this was how it started last time. Fingers and toes crossed.

mychildrenarebarmy · 29/09/2014 12:32

Must have been the night for it Lemon, DS woke up at 2.30am and went to the loo. He was awake enough that he had used his torch AND was actually talking to me when I went to see who was on the move.

Lemonsole · 29/09/2014 13:52

Yay! A holy grail, Mychildren. Great to hear.

We're 23 nights since we managed to get back into a stable routine. So about three weeks. Fingers crossed all day here. I'm going to struggle to sleep tonight, I know it. Shock

Whereisegg · 29/09/2014 15:01

Smile Smile Smile Smile

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Lemonsole · 30/09/2014 15:30

Wet today. Bloody alarm fell off. He fiddles with it A Lot. Hmm

Whereisegg · 17/10/2014 20:31

Any progress? Thanks

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Whereisegg · 27/10/2014 21:07

I'm still lurking Grin

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mychildrenarebarmy · 28/10/2014 08:48

Still very much up and down here. More dry than wet thank goodness but still too many wet nights to consider us nearly there.

Whereisegg · 28/10/2014 08:53

Oh Sad
Such awful drying weather too, it's awful when you seem to be doing everything 'right'.

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mychildrenarebarmy · 28/10/2014 09:13

It hasn't been too bad here. Our washing machine died a couple of weeks ago too. We have opted for a washer dryer so I am crossing all available digits that it doesn't live up to the reputation they have for being unreliable.

Lemonsole · 29/10/2014 14:47

Back again. DS turned 8 yesterday - and it's looking good at the moment for him. Grin

In the last week he has woken up dry every morning, had done three nocturnal flits to the loo, and we had one alarm, which woke him immediately, and resulted in about three drops in his night pants and the bulk of it in the loo. V happy!

I suspect that the Law Of Sod may be in play here - I recently stockpiled a load of night pants, as they were on special, and they do indeed seem to be stockpiled. We're contemplating a go at commando over the weekend, but he's understandably a bit nervous, so we may wait a bit.

Mychildren - I love our washer dryer. It's nine years old, and has seen both of my children through washable nappies. It's s Miele.

Lemonsole · 29/10/2014 14:49

Oh, and in the intervening time we've had to buy a new sensor for the wet stop, as it had had it, and kept falling off. So we stalled for a while, and I got very grumpy...Wink

Whereisegg · 29/10/2014 16:38

Happy birthday and congratulations to your ds lemon ! Smile Grin Smile

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Hellokittycat · 29/10/2014 19:47

I just spotted this thread today and read the whole thing! We are in a very similar position with ds2. He is nearly 7 and not dry at night yet.
Ds1 was just over 5 when he cracked it. He has had the odd accident since but is pretty much fine. Dd has been dry since potty training and has not had a single accident at night since the age of 2.
I was expecting ds2 to be late seeing as ds1 was over 5 but not this late!
He's started being self conscious of it now and refuses to do beavers sleepovers because of it.
Early in the year we started making a more conscious effort to increase his fluids during the day and do the double wee at bedtime. It didn't seem to have an effect for a while but in mid may he suddenly had a few dry nights in a row. This went on and I thought he'd cracked it. He was dry about 6 weeks in a row. I gave away the huge stockpile of night nappies we had and breathed a sigh of relief for him.
However we went on holiday at the beginning of August. He was very tired on the first night and wet the bed. Then wet the bed every night after for the while 2 weeks. We bought pull ups after a couple of days as it wasn't fair on the cleaners to keep changing the beds!
He's been mostly wet ever since. I was gutted that we had thought he had cracked it but then he regressed. For ages when we got home from hols he didn't want to wear a nappy as he didn't want to revert back. I did a lot of washing!! A few weeks back we went back into nappies by agreement.
It's been about 3 months of wetting again now after the 6 weeks of being dry. Over the last few weeks he has had some dry nights but more wet BUT he has had 7 nights in a row now dry so I am cautiously hopeful that his regression is coming to an end...
Sorry for such a long post. Am relieved to see others in same boat to be honest Smile

mychildrenarebarmy · 29/10/2014 20:03

Hellokittycat it's easy to forget that it is quite common. Fingers crossed your DS has cracked it this time.

AugustRose · 29/10/2014 20:33

Hello
Can I ask you a couple of questions please, firstly about the Wetstop - did anyone else's get quieter over time? We have replaced the batteries as I thought they might be running low but it is still quieter than it was at the beginning.

Secondly, I need to help - DD has now been using the alarm for almost 4 months, we started well and she was holding wee after just a week and started the odd dry night after about 3/4 weeks. She had a run of 12 dry nights (either sleeping right through or getting up without the alarm) then could only go 4/5 nights dry nights following by 1/2 damp nights. We then had another run of 10 dry nights at the beginning of October but for the last 2 weeks is only dry for 1 night following by 2/3 damp nights.

We haven't changed her routine at all so I just don't understand why she has gone back to being wet/damp.

Sorry just realised I'm a bit similar to Hellykitty, I'm just worried as a lot of info I read says it can take 3/4 months with the alarm if it's going to work so what happens if it goes on any longer - do I stop for a while and try again later?

Thanks for any help.

Lemonsole · 29/10/2014 20:44

Hellokittycat - that's so spooky! Your experiences virtually mirror ours - right down to the six dry weeks, ditching all the pull-ups and then the over-tired relapse. I think it's a very complex mix of physiology and psychology, tbh. DS is going for commando bum tonight, but with his alarm. Gulp!

All know from our journey is that when he's worrying about it, we see no improvement. Not worrying doesn't equal dry night in itself - but with worry he will always be wet. He relapsed in June, and we're only just getting back on track now.

Lemonsole · 29/10/2014 20:53

Hi Augustrose - I'm not sure. I do think that it's a complex mix of the psychological and the physiological. DS "got it" in three weeks the first time, was dry for six weeks, and then wet at Cub Camp and pretty much ever since. So we've been wet again since the end of June. As you can see from my posts since June, it's been a bit up and down, but with a general upward trend since the start of September. Last time he went dry overnight; this time we have had the odd night when the alarm woke him, the odd few when he was dry or went to the loo, and a few when the alarm didn't wake him, but we shook him and there was still some left for the loo. There have also been a lot of wet nights when the wet stop didn't wake him and we struggled to rouse him. We're now a week into a dry run... SmileShock

Our wet stop has had a few funny five minutes when he managed to get some moisture into the main unit. We opened up the battery part and let it air dry, changing the batteries. We've also had to change the lead, as the clip bit got knackered. We had some help when we phoned ERIC, who are good on alarms. I don't think the volume has dropped, though.

Lemonsole · 29/10/2014 20:55

Don't apologise for long posts! It's what the thread is for... It's so reassuring to be reminded that it's really very common.

Lemonsole · 29/10/2014 20:56

... And it's nice to think that all those details of our DCs' bladders are helping other people. It helps me, as I can check whether my perception of when I think that something happened actually was or wasn't the case, according to my posts.