I think there should be a bloody support group for parents of 3 year olds

[Limelight]

It's like DS woke up a couple of months ago as a completely different person.

'Trying' incidents today:

1. Complete refusal to even consider wearing any clothes. I mean, would genuinely have been very happy if I'd agreed to send him to pre-school in the buff.

2. Running out into the road.

3. Massive screaming kicking throwing things level tantrum because I'd dared suggest we go out with his friends to a club he normally loves. Because the children are naughty and it's all soggy. Apparently. Needless to say we didn't go because by the time he'd calmed down it was too late. So he had another massive tantrum because he couldn't go.

4. Massive sulk because a kid he didn't know decided to play on the wrong slide. Apparently.

5. Complete refusal to eat the dinner he helped me make because it had (completely imaginary) green bits in it. I wouldn't mind except it's normally one of his favourites.

Now admittedly he's very recently had chicken pox and is still a little irritable but when I think about it, he's been like this for a few months. I also have a 10wo DD which isn't helping. He loves her but is not hugely happy with DH and I for changing his life.

Totally exhausted. Going for a bath and a lie down.

Yep absolutely preschool should deal! DS and another little girl were being hit and pushed by another boy, DS told me about it and queried it with a member of staff who assured me they were dealing with it, a couple of times afterwards DS did say "Harley pushed/hit me and he whad to go into Time Out!" but that was it, DS didn't say anything about and so clearly it was dealt with (DS is always keen to tell me about the other children going into Time Out and why!").

We fighting over tooth brushing now sigh
Need to create another Reward chart.

I'll have to check what their policy is on punishments then.

It annoys me because he was originally signed up for 3 mornings, then I did what they asked and removed him for half a term, now they're still umming and ahhing over it all. Think I'll take DH along- he's more, erm, direct than me (without being unpleasant). Thanks for your input, everyone.

On the plus side, ds has slept (or stayed quiet until) 6a.m the last two mornings!!!! We're making progress... And no major tantrums either.

P.S Am loving 'pickley sausages'

All quiet here for a change, apart from a major attack of the green eyed monster when grandad was playing with the baby and was told by DD to 'put it down now' it seems grandad is hers and nobody elses grandad. that's going to be a tough one to crack he is her idol and definately top of the pecking order. Doesn't mind sharing me, DH or grandma but not grandad.

Shodan I would have serious doubts over a pre-school which can't deal with a bit of hitting. they all do it at some point and they should have a policy to deal with it. DD has been to 2 pre-schools and they both have said if she didn't settle then to up her time spent there so completely opposite to yours. Not that Little Miss Uber Confident ever had any issues in that direction quite the opposite thinks she owns the place!

Haha Mum2two 'Miss Uber Confident' thats girls for you, DD is like that, even now.

Well, touching wood all quiet here today, mainly because DS at my Mums today (another Grandad high on pecking order too) and apparently he has been very good company. My Mum would tell me if he had been difficult so I am confident he had a good day.

How is everyone and their DCs today?

We have had a sort of ok day today, but DS been very tired and feel asleep watching CITV this afternoon, but he had had a very busy morning at preschool.

Hoping all have a nice weekend and that all DCs are lovely and cute and no menkleness!

not been on for a while as DCs been keeping me busy... tonight i am staying late at work so DH can do the bedtime thing. if i'm there DD wants me to do everything.
asides form the tantrums, is it normal for them to get really odd obsessions??! now sure if i posted this before as brain is fuzzy from no sleep for the past 3 years, but my DD (3.5) 'wants' everyone and everything she sees. it's only with me this happens. from ladies in the street, to people on TV, to cars, trees, houses, everything she sets eyes on basically.wierdly not the usual things like toys in shops though?! so she sees a lady, points and yells, 'i want a lady like that mummy' i tell her to 'put it on the list' and it seems to abate her, but she gets completely mad if we don't go through this ritual of saying 'oh yes that's fine, put it on the list'...

then the other day i found her role playing; sitting in 'coffee shop' talking to 'julie' (her imaginary friend). the conversation went like this:
"yes, the baby came out of my tummy, they cut it open, yes. he's fine. ... this one just moans, moans, moans, though...'

at your DD's roleplay dried. i think obsessions are pretty normal. I think of it as a form of toddler OCD. It doesn't make sense but they have to do it. Also I they like the control it allows then to give IYSWIM.

My DS is obsessed with the listings/contents pages in books/cds etc. You always have to read everything on it and the numbers. It can be any book too, not just his. For example I had to read him my washing machine instructions the other day.

"Page 18 - Troubleshooting Guide", wow, that was a scintillating read

liv you are now way more informed though than any other person on the whys and wherefores of your washing machine!

DD refuses to let me read her books point blank. She knows I like reading.

Latrucha, I'm sure its just a phase and she will come back to it.

at Dried's DDs roleplay and Mum2two DSs contents pages.

DS can be obsessional too, and he also has an imaginery friend too, called Alan where that came from I have no idea. Its strange as I have never heard him talk to Alan, but I get regular updates of what Alan is doing "Alan's not here today, hes gone to his nursery." "where is his nursery DS" "Oh its in America Mum" .... and sometimes we have to strap him into the spare car seat belt in the back between DS and DD.

DH has just reminded me that DD used to insist that you read ALL of a book including contents, publishing details, blurb on back etc etc if there were any pictures of other books that you can get it would be "got that one, and that one, buy that shopping , buy that shopping" also in one particular book (Owen and the Mountain) there is a picture of some woods and one tree has lots of birds on the branches (a proper lifelike picture not abstract one) and everytime we read it to her, she would have to cup her hand to each bird and 'lift' it off the page............ work that one out!

Yes to the pictures of other books at the back, MrsJH. I'm off to amazon later to look for "The Ravenous Beast" as DS has been pleading for it all week.

I could have cried this afternoon. On Tuesday DH got me a kindle and my mum paid for the lighted case for my birthday. I've been using it when BF DD. I've been keeping it out of DS reach in my bedroom. He has seen it so I showed it to him and I told him it was mummies book but there are no pictures and it's not to play with.
I took it to my parents house this afternoon. Left it on the sidetable when I went to the loo. When I came back DS had tried to rip the kindle out of the case and snapped the connecting pins . What annoyed me the most was my dad was sitting a metre away and didn't get off his arse and take it off him .
After much fiddling with mini screwdrivers I managed to prise out the broken connectors. Explained to DS that I was sad as he'd broken my birthday present as it had cost nanny lots of pennies. He did say sorry.
My mum said she'd ask my brother for some money towards a new one as he hadn't got my present yet. DS overheard, and disappeared upstairs. I found him in my brother's room collecting up his loose change. He presented me with 76p "Here you go, pennies mummy".
My brother was in his room while this was going on and I told DS I needed paper money. He asked his uncle if he could see some paper money and then kept telling him to "give it to mummy"

what a sweetie Liv, they just can't help themselves, they don't get 'breakable' 'delicate' etc etc. DS doesn't.

I can well recommend "The Ravenous Beast" btw, think the kids like it, but it is DEFINATELY one of my favourites. Call me sad but I love making all the voices for it HHHHAAAA i am sad I know, "I'm SOOOOO HUNGARY I could eat.....well, won't say what I could eat as thats another story........ probably why cant ever loose the baby weight

Though was slightly comforted the other night when my beloved Josh Homme (Queens of the Stone Age btw) was on Sky Arts the other night he had a small paunch ....... there is hope for me (she thinks as quickly sucking in doing stomach and pelvic floor clenches)

Though was slightly comforted the other night when my beloved Josh Homme (Queens of the Stone Age btw) was on Sky Arts the other night he had a small paunch ....... there is hope for me - he might leave that binty stick he's married too for me (she thinks as quickly sucking in doing stomach and pelvic floor clenches)

I just googled Josh Homme as had no idea who he was MrsJH, we,ve got the same birthday - May 17th, although he's a couple of years older than me.

I've ordered my Ravenous Beast Book + another 4, thought I'd better stop there as I'm on maternity leave so supposed to be trying to save money. I took DS into the library on Wednesday to get his Bookstart Treasure Chest so we've been reading Some Dogs Do every night this week. I think I'll get him to make a Thank you card for the Children's Librarian

Liv, anybody mentioned a band member from any other band I'd have to google them too! Unfortunately I am a bit older than my hero!

I Love Some Dogs Do as well! DS had his treasure chest too this week, though he didn't have that it. He had 'Duck in a truck'. I am going to a meeting at his new school tomorrow. It comes round quick doesn't it? Can't believe I'll be buying school uniform for him soon

This thread is amazing!!! Its given me so much reassurance. If I had read all of this yesterday I wouldn't have needed to write my post on here yesterday :o

MrsJH -DS also loves "Duck in a Truck!"

He is quite obssessive about lining up all his cars and lorries (and he has lots of them!). They have to all be neatly next to each other!

Kara - ooooohhhh ohhhhhh yes yes same here, AND in coloured order too. Has recently done it with some building octagon shaped things I got him - had to put them in neat colour piles. However, his room is a mess ..............

Where is Wally - yes! Welcome to three year old menkleness free therapy!!

My lovely DS had a melt down this morning and refused to have his breakfast heated up (because we threw out the old microwave yesterday -exploded, and he didn't like the colour of the new one) and refused to eat it cold! :)
Deep Joy!

Limelight, I know EXACTLY what you are going through! My DS, 3 in July, is completely impossible at the moment and with a 16 wo DS as well I'm stressed out of mind. I am convinced it is just a phase as if I thought otherwise I think I would not be able to go on!
Good luck with yours let me know if it improves.

Two time outs before 8.30 for DS this morning, thank the lord for pre-school, I now have a few hours of peace. I'm off to the garden centre cafe with DD to meet a friend who's 3yo DD is also at preschool this morning so we can coo over each others babies and compare 3yo tales over and cake

DD is driving me nuts at the moment (I posted a separate topic about it, as I'm actually getting concerned).

But she nearly made me cry laughing the other day. We were having fish and chips for dinner, and she asked for ketchup. No problem. Got the ketchup. She proceeded to make a little space on the plate for me to put the ketchup. Gave me strict instructions that it wasn't to touch the chips. Had complete meltdown when a bit of ketchup went on one of the chips. Had to remove the ketchup from the chip. Which she then went and dipped in ketchup. I had to leave the room I was laughing so much - DD doesn't take kindly to being laughed at!

Just getting back on the thread.