Once I have finished bleaching the dds room and then myself, how do I go about punishing them/making them understand?

[DooinMeSizers]

I kept smelling a funny smell in their room, so since I had a full day today to do cleaning I decided to investigate where it was coming from. I wish I hadn't now.

Yup, we Englishers shut our kids away in their rooms all day while we sip G&Ts in the parlour.

PMSL I got as far as TIY's

"it doesn't take long to piss in a bucket."

and nearly spat my coffee on the laptop

My DS1 once peed in all 10 toy boxes (we have an ikea storage thingy). That was a joy to discover and clean.

Obviously I neglect him. And administer the occasional beating. Tis the British way, surely?

FWIW OP - I discovered not that long ago that DS1 (10yrs old- but 9 at the time) had been pissing in a bucket in the kitchen

and to quote him

"because I couldn't be bothered to go upstairs"

like you I didn't notice it initially, the bucket was in the corner of the kitchen that I rarely go in, and it didn't smell to start with. It wasn't quite half full.........but - well you get my drift (and thankfully no poo)

thankfully he's of an age where I could hand him the bucket, a pair of yellow gloves, and the cleaning stuff and make him clean it up and disinfect it himself.

I'm not english zazen. and no you haven't touched any nerve,not with me anyway although judging by your own strong reaction to this i think you might have a few nerves twitching yourself?

anyway, away back to cherishedchild.net and leave us to neglect our children in peace.

Rubbish zazen! A little neglect is good for the soul. Toughens 'em up the rugger pitch and the battlefield. Wot!

Was going to write PMSL, but realised that might be inappropriate on this thread.
I think it's utterly normal little kid behaviour. Disgusting, but normal.
I clearly remember my brother peeing into a bucket in the corner of our bedroom when we were about 3 or 4 because he was too scared to go across the hall to the loo in the dark.

A girl in my DD's class peed in the bedroom bin once when she came round to play when they were 5.

Turns out they only have a ground floor bathroom and she was given a potty to use at night, so she used the nearest thing that looked like a potty. Hope she has grown out of this by the time she is 18!

Mind you, not as bad as the (adult) friend of DH who was in the habit of sleepwalking and once walked into his FIL's bedroom when staying there and peed on his head!

Is there really a cherishedchild.net?

Back to the OP. Most children do perfectly revolting and bizarre things.

Hopefully your ire and stunned incomprehension will be sufficient punishment for them. I'm a firm believer that DCs need to see you getting seriously pissed off with them at times.

i don't know jenai i was just making it up because zazen made such a song and dance about her precious, never to be left alone babies.

well there isn't a cherishedchild.net

BUT there is a \link{http://cherishedchildren.net\Cherishedchildren} .net

Thought given it's a child care place I'm not sure that zazen would be using it

Oh I'm disappointed

"Children and seen and heard here, and cherished also."

Oh, not so different here really.

My child is always heard - the noise of her giggles and playing and singing when she plays unsupervised upstairs or from out the window as she runs and plays woth her friends outside; she is seen when she comes for cuddles and quiet time, or to play a game together, or on days out together or sharing a meal, lots of the time TBH. And cherised - you really think that is different?! lol

PMSL Hula - I initially read your post as saying about your DD's giggles as she was hanging out of the window as she plays upstairs unsupervised

definitely the sleepwalking thing i know several friends who did this ( in cupboards, drawers, bins, potted plants etc ) and a fair few who continued to do so into their twenties although admittedly alcohol was usually involved. ( thankfully just wees though ! )

at uni several of us were remarking on the sl yellow tinge to sugar cubes under a friends sink only to be told he sometimes had a wee in the sink during the night as the communal loos were quite far away ! cue several cups of tea being instantly spat out onto the floor !!

mclazy - yeuuuuuuuuuuuch!!!!!

Zazen dd2 is only 3 her pants are often a bit soiled as she insists on wiping herself. We keep spares in her coat pocket/the bathroom. However as they both are responsible for putting their own clothes in the laundry basket I haven't noticed any that were more dirty than normal. I tend to to just grab them out of the basket and stick them in the washer. Inspecting underwear is not something I do regularly.

Like I said the bin is not used for rubbish and hence not emptied. They don't play in their room. They annoy me by dragging half of the toy cuboard downstairs and cluttering up the living room and/or inviting half the neighbourhood to come and play on our PC (which is in the dining room) They are allowed to play upstairs, they just don't.

The lid of the bin was still firmly shut with it's little metal closer thingies. It never occured to me that they might be using it as a toilet.

Dd1 still denies all knowledge, but has admitted to being responsible for shoving washing under the bed because she cannot be bothered to walk the ten steps to the laundry basket.

I last gutted the whole room when they had a sleep-over about two weeks ago and the bin was fine then. Otherwise I just go in and gve it a quick sweep and dust when it needs it. I don't pay much attention to the bin.

As for neglected. They are rarely supervised when they are in their own home, unless they are cooking or playing with sharp objects. I don't see the need to hover over them constantly. They are both clean/fed/dressed appropriately etc. If not interfering with their play constantly is neglectful then I guess I am guilty of that, thank god.

Doo - do they have any friends who regularly come over and play in their room? - it's possible they could be the culprit if they, say, are used to having a potty in their own room. (see my earlier post).

Your DDs may not have noticed them doing this.

I have no idea why you are justifying yourself here DooinMeSizers - your kids did something very funny daft, you've sorted it out and they know not to do it again.

I don't do a deep clean of the kids rooms every fortnight - it's more like monthly. Luckily DD thinks her trousers are the best place to hide wees and DS makes enough noise and fuss when he has a poo everyone is aware of it. Ho hum!

deep clean of their rooms - are you kidding?

I dread to think what lurks under DS1's bed these days.

Once in a while he disappear to tidy it up - but I'm not venturing under beds and in the back of sock drawers to see what horros lurk there

OP, I'm so sorry, but I laughed and laughed. You will too. soon. in a kind of embarrassed laugh way.
I have 6.9 and 2 yr old ds's. And I am fearful that they too will imminently do something this awful.

Zazen is clearly ........ . i am speechless.

why would their pants be soiled zazen. my ds's can do poohs, wipe bottoms and no pooh be on the tissue. so why would mum 'fail to notice soiled pants' ?
maybe there were none.

Interesting that dd2 did it. I supected that ds1 was also involved. even mainly involved actually. i guess i saw them egging eachotehr on and thta it was all fun.

Just in my mind, then , obviously !!

Oblomov - I presume you mean no pooh on the pants

My DS3 this morning managed to take off his nappy (with poo in it - and therefore covered in it) and put on a pair of pants without getting the pants dirty

I realised what he'd done too late, whipped off the (clean!) pants and wiped his bum.

no i mean ,you can do a pooh, wipe your bottom and there be no pooh on the tissue. if you manage to do such a clean poo, to warrant no pooh on the tissue, then there would never be a chance of any being on the pants, would there?

sorry all being a bit tecnical here.
as you were ladies.