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chavvy names

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saslou · 28/04/2010 23:01

Have read quite a few times on various threads of names being referred to as 'chavvy'. Just so I know, what names are considered chavvy and which ones are definitely not. Are there some names where people would disagree?

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recireci · 28/04/2010 23:03

CakeandRoses · 28/04/2010 23:05

NOOOO!!! Please no!

Could we avoid all the upset and insults now and just say: all names are 'chavvy' according to MN.

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saslou · 28/04/2010 23:24

I read on here earlier about a woman who said both her DC's names were considered chavvy by MN. She didn't say what they were ( I guess because of being identified in RL), but I was curious, so have asked. Didn't really think it through before posting though, so if you feel this will just upset people, then please just ignore and my nosiness curiosity will have to go unsatisfied

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kitty75 · 28/04/2010 23:47

Names of English Kings and Queens are definitely not chavvy.

I think some definitely are but most are a matter of opinion. Names that become popular very quickly sometimes become known as common, and in turn chavvy. This isn't always true of course. I also think that our view of a name is influenced by people we know. I may like the name x as I know a very nice person with that name. If the only x you know is very unpleasant (or you hear it yelled out by a shellsuity type, or you teach a horrible one), you will have different associations with the name.

mrsruffallo · 28/04/2010 23:49

Oh FFS Just choose a name you like without seeking mn approval
Chavvy is an offensive term

MrsRhettButler · 28/04/2010 23:52

anything that is 'made up'

of course all names were 'made up' at some point in time

plonker · 28/04/2010 23:56

"Are there some names where people would disagree?"

What a ridiculous question!

Of course people would disagree. Namely those who are being told that their children have chavvy names.

booyhoo · 28/04/2010 23:57

retract the question, quick before everyone sees.

oops too late- hard hats anyone?

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saslou · 29/04/2010 00:00

Mrsruffallo - Chavs exist, so whether the word is considered offensive or not is irrelevant. It might not be PC but when the word is used everyone knows who is being described.

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HellBent · 29/04/2010 00:05

I think I might start all my posts on MN with "who the fuck cares!" I said it as a joke on another thread but I think it is needed here

MrsRhettButler · 29/04/2010 00:06

well i disagree, people are not all clear on who is a chav if you ask me...

i also find it offensive and hate all this 'chavvy names' bs on the baby name threads

it also depends where you come from, i've heard cultural names being called chavvy on here! whoever said kings and queens of england were spot on

MrsRhettButler · 29/04/2010 00:07

hellbent

booyhoo · 29/04/2010 00:07

that Op is soo obvious i am cringeing for you.

dannas · 29/04/2010 00:27

It's down to a person's personal experience isn't it?

If I met a few chavs named Bob then I may think that Bob is chavvy. Whereas my friend Janice may know some very un-chavvy Bobs so will think it not in the least bit chav.

It's all so obvious and so random!

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saslou · 29/04/2010 00:33

I admit, I want to know. It's not for any sinister reason(I did say earlier that I had the thought and asked without properly thinking it through) but it is referred to on here, so when I saw it I was interested. Nothing more to it than that.

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bellissima · 29/04/2010 08:57

It just varies according to poster and over time. I have a cousin Tracy, named after the 'posh' character in High Society. I think the name Sharon sounds very pretty. I love the Damned's Elouise. All those names have been given the 'ch' appellation on here...

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saslou · 29/04/2010 09:24

I love Tracy too and I think of it as glamourous. I think if people chose it for a baby today, that child growing up would not have the same associations made that a 30 something woman called Tracy has. Children growing up now haven't seen Birds of a Feather and are also less familiar with the 'Essex Girl' thing that was going on in the 80s/90s

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mrsruffallo · 29/04/2010 09:40

Really saslou?
Chav seems to be a widely used word for anyone of working class origin so it's not clear who you mean at all.
Seems like you have clear ideas on who is a chav and who isn't. I am sure that people could criticise aspects of your lifestyle/dress etc

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saslou · 29/04/2010 10:08

I don't consider it to be about 'anyone of working class origin'. Plenty of working class people are not chavs and yes I do have clear ideas about what I would consider to be 'chav'. I'm sure people could criticise aspects of my dress. So what? We all make judgements about each other, sometimes fairly, othertimes not. To pretend otherwise is pointless.

Wrt this topic, I have read lots of comments in this section where people talk about names and why they chose them, without actually telling us what the name is they are discussing. This leaves me with unsatisfied curiosity, so I asked. I am genuinely interested in names/regional differences in how names are viewed and how time alters perceptions and want to know. Fair enough, it was tactless to ask and, yes, sometimes by mouth (fingers) engages before my brain, but it is a fact that we make associations with the names we choose. it's why we ask people for their opinions on our choices

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booyhoo · 29/04/2010 10:21

names are such a personal thing that i really dont take anyone's (apart from OH) opinion on board when choosing.

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saslou · 29/04/2010 10:48

Fair enough booyhoo. That's probably the best approach. Some people like to canvass opinion though. I think that if I loved a name that the majority of people made a negative association with, I may well think twice about choosing it as I wouldn't want my child to get teased at school, for example. That's kind of why these sites exist and if there was a definitive list of names that the majority of people consider 'chavvy', then yes ,I would read it.I accept that this does not reflect well on me but I can't say I wouldn't be interested

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sophiesmummie · 29/04/2010 10:50

Children do not tease other children based on whether some of us adults may find a certain name chavvy or posh. Honestly, children couldn't care less whether their classmates are called Jaydon, Jack or Julian.

It is us adults who place so much emphasis on having to label names. We should learn from our children and just judge people based on who they are!

GetOrfMoiLand · 29/04/2010 10:53

Whatever name you list and say ooh how chavvy, let's point and laugh, will have a mother on here who has called their child that.

Right let's play baby name bingo. Let's spot on this thread names which are described as

Chavvy
Chavtastic
Council
Common

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saslou · 29/04/2010 11:23

sophiesmummie - we should stop judging people partly on their names, but we probably wont.I think it is quite entrenched in how society is. When I mentioned about children being teased, I was thinking of a thread where both parents liked a name and the GPs said it had certain connotations associated with it, particularly in the north. I mentioned it to show that we do make associations with names. What was interesting in that thread was that because times have changed the associations also change and it seemed to be an assoc that older people would make more than younger ones.

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mathanxiety · 29/04/2010 15:59

Are you thinking of Jesse?

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