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Is this, or is this not, the No. 1 chav boys' name?

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Gunnerbean · 09/03/2009 20:11

Jayden

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TheButterflyEffect · 11/03/2009 17:42

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Ivykaty44 · 11/03/2009 17:45

Michelle I wanted to be called this, I thought it was sophisticated and interesting with lots of letter - not like my own name.

Now though I am happy wth my own name, Still like Michelle though

MsBeauregarde · 11/03/2009 17:55

It's not for me to say why it has started to be perceived as a chav name. Some choices are more popular with different groups. New, modern, made-up sounding names are popular in some sectors, others favour classics, and name after Grandfathers etc.

I think that I would guess that if you polled a hundred young mothers or uneducated mothers Jayden would come out much higher than if you polled a hundred older mothers.
That doesn't mean that people can't meet a Jayden with an open mind. It's just like 'odds' I guess.

MsBeauregarde · 11/03/2009 18:01

TheButterflyEffect, you mention it's a bible name and I don't doubt it. But I think its popularity came off the back of Aidan, which was taken up in HUGE numbers in the US about ten years ago. It became the number one name there for a while (it was far more popular in the US than it was in Ireland where it was just regarded as being one of many names).

When Aidan was 'saturated' Jayden and then Kayden and even Zayden started to appear.

We probably don't know any Jaydens or Kaydens as there simply weren't any when I was growing up. That is precisely what appeals to some. The name#s newness.

Some people shy away from new names. They want to be different, but their way of being different is to choose names like Christabel, Constance, Clementine Octavia etc... Crusty, Clunky, Classic, but considered unusable by the vast majority of the population.

So at the top of the social heap you have crusty clunky names, in the middle the normal classics like Emily and Daniel and then the 'new' sounding names.

TheButterflyEffect · 11/03/2009 18:06

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wotulookinat · 11/03/2009 18:18

I like Zayden! Never heard of it, but like it. I'm not a chav, I don't think!

hedgiemum · 11/03/2009 18:19

ROFLOL at premiership footballer comment! Agree with MadameC one of the funniest things I've read here ever!

Names are so personal, and there is nothing offensive about the name Jayden (unlike the child named Lucifer being discussed on another thread). Equally, I don't find anything offensive about the OP, and really don't think I would if she was suggesting William (my son's name) is the chavviest name ever - though clearly I would disagree!
My daughters have elaborate names and this has opened me up to accusations of snobbery - we knew this when we chose the names, and also knew that where we live and with the schools they would be going to their names wouldn't mark them out for ridicule. I'm sure the same is true for all the little Jayden's out there - though Lucifers parents should be sectioned given therapy.

JaneSeymour · 11/03/2009 18:23

Is this still on?

MsBeauregarde · 11/03/2009 18:24

I think it's because it doesn't come from the bible, like say Saul or Lydia.

It happens to be a bible name. I read once on here that Leah was a chav name and I argued the opposite.

DevilsAdvocaat · 11/03/2009 19:36

the point is that we all judge about names. we all associate certain names with certain types of people/social groups. what i was trying to get across is that starting a thread like this will offend someone.

it is completely unnecessary. why not start a thread like 'why are some names considered chavvy/associated with certain social groups?'. then you get a discussion which at least has some intelligent discussion.

it's childish to point fingers and laugh at people, doesn't anyone have a manners anymore?

mrsruffallo · 11/03/2009 19:39

It's just this awful snobbery of writing a child off as a 'chav' because of their name.

I am not pompous, I just hate lazy stereotyping and the fact that people think its okay to laugh at kids names that annoys me.

RachieB · 11/03/2009 20:03

IMO there are far more "chavtastical" names out there than Jayden / Jaiden / Jaden

I know a few of the above named children ,and none of their parents are "chavs"

Think its a bit "off" to purposely start a thread about this ,if asked for your opinion then fine ....

TiggyR · 11/03/2009 21:32

I'm completely with MsBeauregarde's analysis of things (and I agree with her in wondering if some people are quite so self-righteous in private as they seem to be on MN?! Just tipping over into being a tad patronising, some of you...I wonder if you would have leapt to the defence of the upper middle classes if OP had asked if the name Jonty was typically 'posh'?

Apart from names that are clearly made up and have diabolical convoluted spellings, any name can start off sounding classy or interesting if a classy interesting person picks it. But then it can get hijacked, sometimes years later by um, unsuitables. It's clear to me from reading MN threads that the C word has different connotations to different people.

I ran my My DS3s name through the MN search engine to see if anyone had it, as in almost ten years I've never met or heard of another one. It was described on here by someone as awful and disgusting and common, and they said that anyone who used it could only possibly come from Essex or Liverpool. Well actually, I do live in Essex, though I lived in Kent when I chose it, so what does that mean? And I found that asssumption very offensive. I am not remotely common or thick, or lacking in taste or style. (believe it or not, most of us here aren't you know ). I am affluent, my children are privately educated, and my husband has a professional qualification and a senior management job in the City. My house is a shrine to Farrow and Ball sludge and I wouldn't dream of wearing anything with a shouty label on the outside. I watch virtually no TV, and we holiday in the Dordogne. I have no fake body parts and no alarming two-tone hair, no piercings, no tattoos, no polyester sportswear, no scary gold jewellery with gallopy horses and bendy dollies on, no 'staffie' and I don't even own a pair of trainers. And yet, apparently, I have a very common, disgusting, laughable naff name, worthy only of the worst parts of Essex and Liverpool. Go figure!!!!

My DS's name isn't made up. It is actually a very old name that has always in all the name books, and has been for donkey's years but clearly overlooked because, a bit like Digby, as MsB mentioned earlier, it's very unusual and not many people would choose it -they obviously find it too challenging, but in a sea of Jonathans and and Lukes and Bens that's just fine by me! But Digby now seems to be a good choice if you want a slightly ironic, uber-cool, daring name that also has a traditional middle-class old-school ring to it, like Wilf or Arthur. How many Digbys were knocking around ten years ago? Or Archies? Or Wilfs or Stans? But as the trends for names develop and evolve, people get on a theme, and I would not be surprised if DS's name does eventually become popular in entirely the wrong sort of way, becasue it is an old Irish name and that's currently a popular theme, but hey, I didn't have a crystal ball nearly 10 years ago - all I knew was that I didn't want to saddle the world with yet another bloody
Jack or James! (DS has 7 Jameses in his class . It's always a gamble - but as MsB said, the alternative is to call all babies Matthew or Jonathan, Emma or Sarah. Perfectly acceptable but dull. Or you pick the popular choice of the moment, and find that your child is the fifth Amelia or Olivia in the class - she's the Sharon and Tracy of tomorrow. Or you go for the very clunky and hideously pretentious Octavia or Mungo or Orlando, which are in themselves a bit of a laughable stereotype. So what to do?

TiggyR · 11/03/2009 21:33

Oh, sorry. Forgot to say, the answer to the question, regrettably, is Yes.

lunamoon2 · 11/03/2009 22:56

Blimey, I think some people need to lighten up and stop steroetyping everybody. A name is a name, there are far more important things in life to worry about!
How would we all feel if all blond women for example were excluded from university because there are obviously "thick", according to stereotype.

Chellesgirl · 11/03/2009 23:36

ivykaty44 - Thank you.

MsBeauregarde - what can I say??????

Chellesgirl · 11/03/2009 23:42

lunamoon - dont go there - someone will so start that thread!

TiggyR · 12/03/2009 09:55

Lol, I almost did!!!

CalaLilly · 12/03/2009 10:05

Whilst I think calling Jayden chavvy is very harsh I have noticed that a lot of younger Mum's do favour it- that doesn't relfect on their social status though but I think more that they are young and want to give their baby a modern name. Things like Brogan, Tegan, Kayden and Logan are popular with this group too. (As a neonatal nurse I get to do a fair bit of unofficial name observation )

  • Note- Jayden is not exclusively for the use of younger Mum's so please don't interpret this as that! I've just noticed that older Mum's often tend to go with more classic or unusual/ Sophisticated names!
TheButterflyEffect · 12/03/2009 10:11

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Jaquelinehyde · 12/03/2009 10:27

TiggyR was that just your chance to show off about how wonderful your life is, because your point could have been made without listing all those details.

Yawn @ this thread, really bad form from the OP.

TiggyR · 12/03/2009 10:50

Yes. If you like. Happy?

Nancy66 · 12/03/2009 11:22

blimey - a lot of justification going on here. Call your kids what you want.

but a little pointless to post a whole spiel about how your child has a (possibly) chavvy name and you don't care - but not actually be brave enough to say what the name is - sort of suggests that you do care.

TiggyR · 12/03/2009 11:22

After a quick google it would appear that 'Jadon' not Jayden appears in the bible very briefly, as very much a bit-part walk-on extra! I don't think it is accepted as a classic or particulary well-known Hebrew name. I think its popularity sprang up from Will Smith calling his son Jaden (but then his wife is called Jada). Most names picked by a popular culture celebrity are eventually adopted by the masses.

TiggyR · 12/03/2009 11:28

Actually I only don't say it on-line because

a) I want it to remain unusual but current trends lead me to suspect it may not. I don't like to put it out in the open any more than is necessary, in case it gets picked up and beomes the next big thing.

b) I like anonimity online and his name coupled with where I live would be a big giveaway to anyone who might know me.

c) I don't need anyone's opinion on it, thank you! I still like it and that's all that matters.