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Everyone pronounces our daughter's name wrong

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StarShine23 · 13/02/2024 09:09

Hi all, advice needed please.

We named our daughter after someone we know from abroad. Its a pretty simple name but we had never heard it in the UK before. Baby is now 1 and the name has become more popular here, but it has a different pronunciation than we use. The problem we have is we don't like way its pronounced here, but everyone we meet now calls her by the UK version rather than her name, even though we correct them.

Do we:
(a) stick to our original pronunciation, even though it will be a battle for her growing up when other people with the same name all pronounce it the UK way
(b) accept the UK version, even though we dont like it and to us, doesn't suit her
(c) change her name

Has anyone else been through this? What did you do / wish you had done?

We feel awful that we have unwillingly picked something that is going to be tricky for her now all her life, but we love the name.

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ZebraPensAreLife · 15/02/2024 15:49

DuchessOfSausage · 15/02/2024 15:38

@shearwater2 , not if you are saying Hey! quickly. Like in 'Hey! Stop!"
Compare it with Aye and Eye or I. Aye sounds longer than Eye or I.

Hey and Hay sound identical how I say them. As do Aye, Eye and I

MasterBeth · 15/02/2024 15:50

DuchessOfSausage · 15/02/2024 15:38

@shearwater2 , not if you are saying Hey! quickly. Like in 'Hey! Stop!"
Compare it with Aye and Eye or I. Aye sounds longer than Eye or I.

I say hey and hay the same, and I say eye and I the same.

I never say aye, but if I did, I would pronounce it just the same as eye.

MasterBeth · 15/02/2024 15:54

Quebeccles · 15/02/2024 12:54

And again, how do you and your friend pronounce the French names Renee and Andre? I'd put money on you pronouncing them correctly, ie with the -ay ending

When I was a child in the NW, we knew at least two older women whose names were 'Renee' and they were always called 'Reenie'. That’s just the way it was. Yes, the name is originally French. Yes, the French pronounce it differently and, if you like, 'correctly'. But the fact is that people may say it differently here. Just as they did/do Esme. I’m not having a go at you, mypafology, just saying it’s pointless denying what is demonstrably true 🤷‍♀️

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renee_Bradshaw

Renee Bradshaw - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renee_Bradshaw

shearwater2 · 15/02/2024 15:58

ZebraPensAreLife · 15/02/2024 15:49

Hey and Hay sound identical how I say them. As do Aye, Eye and I

Yes me too.

I would just say "Hey!" a bit louder if I was trying to get someone's attention. It would still sound exactly the same as the stuff rabbits eat.

DuchessOfSausage · 15/02/2024 16:00

@MasterBeth @ZebraPensAreLife , ok, do you say Joy Nin and Join in the same?

shearwater2 · 15/02/2024 16:00

LOL re Reenie/Renee. That's a blast from the past. I always imagined it was spelt Reenie and short for "Maureen" or similar.

Reenie is an awful thing to do to a Renée 😂

shearwater2 · 15/02/2024 16:03

DuchessOfSausage · 15/02/2024 16:00

@MasterBeth @ZebraPensAreLife , ok, do you say Joy Nin and Join in the same?

Yes.

MasterBeth · 15/02/2024 16:04

DuchessOfSausage · 15/02/2024 16:00

@MasterBeth @ZebraPensAreLife , ok, do you say Joy Nin and Join in the same?

Of course I would (if I ever said Joy Nin).

This is a common feature of spoken English.

shearwater2 · 15/02/2024 16:06

It's also how puns are made.

herewegoagainy · 15/02/2024 16:10

NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoBy · 15/02/2024 10:17

My friend's dd is called Ivie. Everyone pronounces it as Ivy (like the plant) and she gets really annoyed as she wants it pronounced IH-VEEE-AY so 3 syllables to rhyme with giveaway. It's a daily battle for her dd Confused

Ih Veee Ay is really hard to say. She may find people simply avoid saying her name at all.

Mashedorboiled · 15/02/2024 16:13

Can't imagine Joy-nin and join being said the same🤔Not doubting pps obvs.
But Hey/hay and Aye/eye/I - can't hear any difference there.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 15/02/2024 16:14

herewegoagainy · 15/02/2024 16:10

Ih Veee Ay is really hard to say. She may find people simply avoid saying her name at all.

It also sounds like IVA - the process that’s like bankruptcy.

Poor child.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 15/02/2024 16:15

Mashedorboiled · 15/02/2024 16:13

Can't imagine Joy-nin and join being said the same🤔Not doubting pps obvs.
But Hey/hay and Aye/eye/I - can't hear any difference there.

It was Joy Nin and Join In.

All of the Duchess’s examples seem identical to me.

Mashedorboiled · 15/02/2024 16:22

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 15/02/2024 16:15

It was Joy Nin and Join In.

All of the Duchess’s examples seem identical to me.

Sorry, typo on my part.
Joy nin and join in don't sound the same to me is what I meant to say.
They're close-ish...Joy-nin sounds like someone saying join in in a very, very different accent to mine maybe.

DuchessOfSausage · 15/02/2024 16:23

I'd say them differently. I don't say Hay Tid and Hated the same - I say them similarly but not identically. The former has a longer vowel sound.

Anyway, the ey sound I was trying to convey is very short, so more like 'Eh?' than 'A'. If you don't get it, you won't.

DuchessOfSausage · 15/02/2024 16:25

FWIW, the Joy in Joyce doesn't sound the same as Joy to me.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 15/02/2024 16:29

MasterBeth · 15/02/2024 16:27

Trying to find whether Esme Young is an Esmay or Esmee.

Here we go. Es-mee! Her own name. I'm assuming she know show to pronounce her own name!

Yeah, but she’s been doing it wrong all these years. Esme has NEVER been Ez-Mee! We’ve been told.

ZebraPensAreLife · 15/02/2024 16:35

DuchessOfSausage · 15/02/2024 16:23

I'd say them differently. I don't say Hay Tid and Hated the same - I say them similarly but not identically. The former has a longer vowel sound.

Anyway, the ey sound I was trying to convey is very short, so more like 'Eh?' than 'A'. If you don't get it, you won't.

“Eh” and “A” are the same in my accent as well!

DuchessOfSausage · 15/02/2024 16:37

Blimey!

TooOldForThisNonsense · 15/02/2024 16:40

VincentVanGoth · 13/02/2024 10:00

Is it Esmé?

Good shout

Es-mee v Es-may

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 15/02/2024 16:40

ZebraPensAreLife · 15/02/2024 16:35

“Eh” and “A” are the same in my accent as well!

I think it depends on whether ‘eh’ is being pronounced fully or not. To me it’s the same as ‘A’. But some people will say it like the ai sound in ‘air’. (That may not help since we all pronounce things subtly differently!)

herewegoagainy · 15/02/2024 16:45

I would say Es-May. But correcting people will be a lifelong battle.

DuchessOfSausage · 15/02/2024 16:53

@WhatsTheUseOfWorrying , I meant 'Eh?' as in 'WHAT? not eh as in meh.

Eh? Eh? Eh?