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Saoirse?

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NameNameNameNames · 17/09/2023 12:35

Follow on from my Isla thread, another name I have in mind is Saoirse.

Sister would still be Hazel, and there’s very little chance of the name being mispronounced

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oneuponedown · 23/09/2023 20:18

I just read a book with a character of this name and
Referred to her as swar ose the whole way through- no idea still how to pronounce but obviously not in Ireland!

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 20:39

Bríd
Cait

Come on, I’m running out of aunties.

Scruffington · 23/09/2023 20:50

Bríd is a good one

JaneJeffer · 23/09/2023 20:55

Nuala
Úna
Emer
Rumplestiltskin

Sparklecats · 23/09/2023 21:07

Scruffington · 23/09/2023 18:07

Maura Higgins is the most un-Maura looking Maura I've ever seen.

Mauras usually wear support stockings and a tweed skirt that's straining across an ample backside.

@Scruffington 😂😂😂

I had exactly this thought!!

Plusque · 23/09/2023 21:10

Scruffington · 23/09/2023 20:50

Bríd is a good one

Another sister!

Plusque · 23/09/2023 21:11

JaneJeffer · 23/09/2023 20:55

Nuala
Úna
Emer
Rumplestiltskin

😀😀

Sparklecats · 23/09/2023 21:17

Liv999 · 23/09/2023 19:20

Of course it is, every language is an old language, fair enough it's not used day to day by a lot of people but it would be a shame to see it fade out, it's part of our identity and hopefully will remain so, in Northern Ireland it is growing in popularity which is great to see, its a lovely language and I love to hear people speak it fluently

@Liv999 I agree it is nice to see it flourishing in NI and I would like to see more Protestants there involved in learning/using the language too. And less politicising of it. Like you generally only see large amounts of Irish street signage in areas where as a Protestant you would not be welcome. And fluent NI speakers - disclaimer that I have known in NI- are generally raging republicans whose children all go off like a right of passage to the Gaeltacht each summer to become more entrenched.
Would be nice to see the Ulster Scots more seeing as so much is used in language daily. Shame to lose that part of the culture in Ireland.
Be lovely if the Celts could support each other.

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 21:34

ColleenDonaghy · 23/09/2023 19:29

I'm no linguist and my Irish is crap but that reads like the precursor to "saor" to me, presumably Saoirse is a particular usage of that (sorry, crap on grammatical terms). Laethanta saoire and all that.

Adjective - Noun
Cold- coldness
Fuar - fuaire

Nice - niceness
Deas - deise

Red - redness
Dearg - deirge

Free - freedom
Saor - saoire
saor - saoirse

The plural form of these adjectives is same as the noun. So
lá saor = free day
laethanta saoire = free days ie holidays

ColleenDonaghy · 23/09/2023 21:36

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 21:34

Adjective - Noun
Cold- coldness
Fuar - fuaire

Nice - niceness
Deas - deise

Red - redness
Dearg - deirge

Free - freedom
Saor - saoire
saor - saoirse

The plural form of these adjectives is same as the noun. So
lá saor = free day
laethanta saoire = free days ie holidays

Maybe we're at cross purposes, but that was my point. An old word with the pronunciation serra (saora) is a very obvious root of Saoirse.

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 21:58

Oh I see, yes but other similar words didn’t get the s added.
Fuaire didn’t turn into fuairse.
Dearg didn’t become deirgse.

Deas / Deise may be the clue since it means “just” / “justice” so “saoirse agus deise” by comparison maybe.

Sincere apologies to those not interested in grammar.

SunnyFog · 23/09/2023 22:29

I just checked my grammar. Got the plurals wrong. And deas is not used to mean just.
before any teachers pop up to tell me.
oiche mhaith

NameNameNameNames · 25/09/2023 11:59

I left for a few days and came back to whatever this is 😂😂😂

Can someone fill me in on what’s been going on??

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JaneJeffer · 25/09/2023 15:37

The bottom line @NameNameNameNames is that you're to call the child Mór.

Plusque · 25/09/2023 15:41

JaneJeffer · 25/09/2023 15:37

The bottom line @NameNameNameNames is that you're to call the child Mór.

Seconded. Please post birth certificate when little Mór Gobnait Surname has been duly registered.

(I met only my second ever Lasairfhíona at the weekend.)

NameNameNameNames · 25/09/2023 15:42

Ok will do! Although this sorta feels like the rumplestiltskin thing

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Scruffington · 25/09/2023 15:52

Mór will be a gorgeous name for her. Especially if she comes from sturdy stock.

JaneJeffer · 25/09/2023 15:55

I met only my second ever Lasairfhíona at the weekend.

I love that one, haven't met any in the wild though. You could call them lazer for a nn.

shezbez · 26/09/2023 02:36

My daughter is called saoirse pronounced 'ser sha' I love it an would fit perfectly with isla

shezbez · 26/09/2023 02:39

I am not Irish or in Ireland my name is Irish and so is my other daughters (I don't know y) saoirse is a lovely name my only regret is she is going to have a hard time spelling it x

Cherrythomasina · 26/09/2023 07:48

Saoirse is pronounced Seersha not Sersha @shezbez.

Mooshamoo · 26/09/2023 09:05

Cherrythomasina · 26/09/2023 07:48

Saoirse is pronounced Seersha not Sersha @shezbez.

It can be pronounced several different ways actually.

Saoirse Ronan pronounces her name "Ser-sha"

LizzieAnt · 26/09/2023 09:23

Mooshamoo · 26/09/2023 09:05

It can be pronounced several different ways actually.

Saoirse Ronan pronounces her name "Ser-sha"

I mean you can pronounce Bill as Boll or Jim as Jam if you like and that's your right and absolutely your choice. But it doesn't mean it's the way that combination of letters is usually pronounced (though it does depend on accent too).

Saoirse Ronan has confused everyone. She said her name was pronounced Sersha or Sursha at various times on tv - but she doesn't seem to say it like that herself really, but more like Sairsha which is ok. (The way some native Irish speakers say aoi is a bit of a cross between ai and ee, hard to explain.)

suzettenoisette · 26/09/2023 10:31

As far as I know Saoirse Ronan is mispronouncing it.

She says sur-sha, but it's supposed to be seer-sha. I think she has even said in interviews, that her pronunciation isn't correct.

I don't mind Saoirse, but I think it's kind of boring. It feels like in the last 5 years everyone who wanted an Irish name has picked Saoirse. It's the Niamh and Aoife of the 90s.

I like Irish names a lot, but I think there are much nicer ones.