Irish names help!

[nothingseasy]

Hiya,
I'm calling out to all Irish speakers please.

I want to call my baby Ayveen In Irish. I've established from other threads that it's not Aoibheann or Aoibhinn or anything beginning with Aoi as this makes an ee sound. However nobody can conclusively say how it should be spelled.

I'd like to know what letters (diphthong/triphthong) make the aye/ay sound I am looking for. Do they exist in Irish?

Alternatives I've seen are

Éabhaoin
Éimhín
Aibhín

I personally favour the Aibhín but does ai in Irish make the sound ay?

Please help it's driving me mad!!

We are living in England and I want to keep a connection to my Irish heritage so I want an Irish name. We have trawled through them all and this is the only one we liked so when we found out it wasn't even said right we were devastated.

Please don't tell me not to bother with an Irish name in England or that I shouldn't give it an Irish name because they will have trouble e.t.c.

Help resolving the spelling is really all I am after.

Thank you x

Yeah, I see what you mean, it's difficult to say a followed by a vowel all right.

Any news, @nothingseasy?

Your child will for ever have to spell her name to others which is a royal pain.my own DD has a name which can be spelt in irish/french/english. The most popular version is english and thats it. I do think you have every right to decide a name regardless of country lived in but its your chil who will have a lifetime of pain not you in this but whatever

I do not know for sure if Ayveen is a name or not ... however, I'm going to apply what little knowledge I have to building a vaguely acceptable Irish spelling.

Éa (as in Éamonn) bh (as in Siobhan) ín (as in Caitlín)
That gives you Ébhín.

Sorted.

@blackberrybunnet and @radyward you might want to read the thread

Should have written Éabhín, sorry, missed a letter out. Typo.
BTW, did read the thread. @nothingseasy only wanted help with resolving the spelling.

I think it was decided that Éabhín breaks the 'caol le caol, leathan le leathan' spelling rule @Blackberrybunnet. With a few notable exceptions (compound words, for example), vowels either side of a consonant must match to be either both slender (i or e) or both broad (a, o or u). This rule is in place because the pronunciation of the consonant can differ depending on whether it's next to a broad or slender vowel. So the vowels either side of consonants usually need to match.

I saw Eimhin on a file (through work) and thought of this thread!

Slightly off thread; if Caitlin is not ‘Kate-lynn’, what is the correct pronunciation, please?

Kathleen

A link to the pronunciation here -
forvo.com/word/caitl%C3%ADn/

It varies a bit with dialect.

@Knitterbabe

Slightly off thread; if Caitlin is not ‘Kate-lynn’, what is the correct pronunciation, please?

My Mayo mum pronounces it "Cotchleen" .

@Apileofballyhoo

Any news, *@nothingseasy*?

Hiya, no nothing as yet. I might send them a prod🤔

Unless it is spelled Caitlín with the 'fada' on the second i, I would automatically pronounce it 'Kate-Lynn'. The only Caitlin I know who pronounced it the Irish way (as given by her parents) has legally changed her name to Cathleen to avoid all the mispronunciations!!

Yes, use of the fada is a good indicator all right Gooseysgirl. There are loads of people called Sean, Donal, Siobhan etc who don't bother with the fada and still pronounce their name as if the fada were there, but it's a different story with Caitlin/Caitlín all right.