Any masculine names for DD??

[ElisaMay]

I was wondering if there were any good more masculine names for my DD like Billie, Wren, etc??

@ElisaMay

We just think they sound nice :)

Makes no sense.

How can you think all masculine names sound nice on the basis that they're masculine?

but it's very telling that some people hate pink and princesses but have no objection to blue and dinosaurs. Double standards.)

Dinosaurs are interesting. Princesses are not

Jamie
Frances/ Frankie

Blimey, this is persistent.

I don't personally like them, but can see an argument for going for neutral surname type names like Jordan, Cameron and Morgan or nature names like Storm or River.

However, I greatly dislike male names for girls, for the reasons others have given. My girls have names on the 'strong' lists people have suggested.

I think a good compromise is a name that allows a unisex or predominantly male shortened version like Alex, Chris, Charlie, George or Fred(die).

Ok, can someone explain to me why it is such a problem?

If you like a name, you like it. Why is it a problem to just use it regardless on if it ‘matches’ the sex of your baby?

I hear the argument for there’s no boys being called Lily, Mia etc, but some names can transfer easily either way and others can’t. That surely is just personal opinion as to what does/doesn’t. No one is saying boys shouldn’t be given traditionally feminine names, just that they aren’t, that’s the argument. Whereas parents who ask for ideas for traditionally masculine names for their daughters are told completely that they shouldn’t even consider using one.

I just don’t think it really matters if you like the name and feel it’s the right choice for your baby.

If you like "a name" then yes you like it.
If you think that any name that sounds like it's for a girl is weak and unacceptable, that's a sign that you've taken on board the idea that being a girl is weak and unacceptable.

All names that have started out as boys' names, and moved over to being unisex, are either completely or on their way to being girl-only. Names are tainted by being associated with girls. No man wants to be thought possibly to be a woman. Marilyn, Lesley, Evelyn - all were men's names - you don't get men under 30 with these names.

I’ve not seen anyone saying that they they think girls names are weak and that they want to use a masculine name to avoid their DD being considered weak. I may have missed that though.

There are stronger sounding traditionally feminine names but if you don’t like them then what is the point in using them when you would like to use one more often given to boys because you actually like the name? It just seems to be a non existent issue to me and I really don’t understand why people are so against it.

If you think that any name that sounds like it's for a girl is weak and unacceptable, that's a sign that you've taken on board the idea that being a girl is weak and unacceptable.

I disagree. Some names of themselves are just weak. To me for example the names Simon, Colin, Robin and Geoff are weak.

Noa

I’ve not seen anyone saying that they they think girls names are weak and that they want to use a masculine name to avoid their DD being considered weak. I may have missed that though
It's the subconscious bias.

No one is saying boys shouldn’t be given traditionally feminine names, just that they aren’t
And why aren't they? Because boy names are seen as strong and girl names are seen as weak. So Aubrey was (is as far as I'm concerned) boy's name. It got used for girls a lot and now hardly ever for boys becuase it has become tainted as "girly". Never happens the other way round.

Taryn (girl's name)
Florian (boy's name)

Ok, but surely that’s a bone to pick with parents of boys, rather than those of girls?

If parents are having a DD and like traditionally masculine names then there’s not much they can do to address the imbalance, unless they name their daughter a name they don’t love to save the ‘special’ name for boys.

Surely some names just fall out of use naturally like the ones mentioned above ( not Evelyn admittedly) and it’s not that parents of boys don’t want to use them because they’ve been tainted by girliness, just because they aren’t to modern tastes?

I recently met a lady called George I think it's a really nice name for a girl

what is the point in using them when you would like to use one more often given to boys because you actually like the name?

If you like a specific name (but it's more traditionally given to boys) that is one thing.
If you are specifically choosing masculine names for a girl you are saying feminine names aren't good enough. The OP has asked for masculine names, plural, as a description of those names. Not "strong girls' names" or "names like Elliot for a girl".

I disagree. That is a massive projection to say that OP is rejecting traditionally feminine names because they’re not good enough. Nothing has been said to suggest that.

surely that’s a bone to pick with parents of boys, rather than those of girls?
It's a bone to pick with society. We are part of society.
Giving your daughter a masculine name says either "we really wanted a boy" or "we know you are a girl and girls are OK but we don't think feminine names are good because there's something about being feminine that makes it not as good as being masculine". And it's saying "society will tell you being a boy is better and our choice of name confirms that".

Instead of saying "let's opt out of being feminine" parents of girls have a responsibility to their girls to say "being a girl is great, there may be some things that aren't great but we'll fight them together".

Like many others, she may just like the sound of more traditionally masculine names as her personal preference. I hate names like Lily, Rose, Daisy etc, but it’s not an attack on flowers.

she may just like the sound of more traditionally masculine names as her personal preference.

What is a "masculine name"? Is it one that sounds strong? One that sounds like Elliot or Robin? Or one that is traditionally associated with boys?

It’s a combination of letters that make a sound that’s pleasant and you feel is right for your child. It really doesn’t have to be attached to all this gender crap in my opinion. It should just be about whether a name works for that particular family.

Well, that's exactly my point.

It's fairly common on here to say "if I like Elliot for a girl what else would I like". That's what you seem to be meaning by "a sound that's pleasant and you feel right".

But looking for a set of names, traditionally associated with boys, but for a girl, says "girls names aren't good enough".

It really really doesn’t to me personally. It just says someone has a personal preference for what they want to name their child, and that’s ok. It doesn’t have to be a rejection of a child’s gender or a big statement saying girls names aren’t good enough.

OP it is very unusual to really like feminine names and then jump to very masculine names.

What prompted your very unusual change of mind?

If you want strong names for a girl:
Rowan
Lauren
Elizabeth

Or names that are variants of/close to male names:
Jamie/Jayme/Jaime
Elliot
Peta
Noa
Olive/Ollie