Tudor ?

[Yoshinori]

Hi,

I’m expecting a boy in a few weeks time. DH and I are currently stick between Tudor and Thatcher for our second child.

I prefer Thatcher but I’m worried it would remind people of Margret Thatcher.

Our first child is called Plum so we definitely like names “out there”.

Thanks for any help.

All sounds a bit 'Cluedo' to me.

Would’ve assumed a Welsh connection with Tudor, or an interest in history!

Tudor is fairly commonplace in these parts (S. Wales) although it’s mainly older men. It reminds me of a lovely friend who has now passed away, so I only have positive associations. I used to live in New Malden area, so I associate it with the Tudor Williams shop too.

I like Plum OP I don’t think Tudor or Thatcher go with it though, connotations aside, they just have a different vibe?

I know you’ve discarded Thatcher but wasn’t that one of the awful names that Ross suggested to Rachel in Friends?

I think her response was; “Why do you hate our child?”

You may not know that though, OP because you and your family are not going to associate with anyone born in the 60s or 70s.

Sorry. But in some part of Scotland. Plums refer to a mans balls and also “you plum” means you idiot.

So plum wouldn’t be a popular choice in Scotland. But there you go. Horses for courses.

If we are going down the prime minister road, what about Major? Blair? Browne? Cameron?

"I get that Plum is an out there name but there’s nothing offensive about the name in any way."

Plum is used as a term for someone who is a bit thick as in, "you big plum". Might as well call him buffoon or galoot. It's also a nickname for testicles.

Commenting on Plum is a bit irrelevant since that's already OP's DD's name. It might not be to everyone's taste but there's a difference between advising on potential names for baby and being snarky about someone's actual name.

Based on all the above, your dh being Welsh, his grandfather being Tudor etc I'd say Tudor it is. It's not offensive but it is unusual. But then so is Plum.

Plum and Tudor don’t sound like a sib set at all
They sound ridiculous together

I rather like Plum
Tudor is too clunky and rough hewn next to it

How about Sage or Basil?

I can't think of anything that "goes" with Plum tbh....

Grape?

I like Tudor plum, they go together, maybe crisp for the third.
Yah Tudor, crisp, plum.

I know of a Tudor, probably 50something, high up in professional field. I didn't bat an eyelid tbh.

I think of Tudor as an old fashioned Welsh and name but maybe it's due for a return?

Thatcher makes me think of milk snatcher or someone who thatches roofs...it's sort of like calling your son butcher or carpenter..

Plum is another word for testicle. Tudor sounds a bit ordinary in comparison.

There’s no point in everyone being rude about a name OP has already given her child, so stop being so snarky everyone. Also I am Scottish and used to work with a girl called Plum and nobody batted an eye.

OP - much prefer Tudor to Thatcher. I think most people would immediately think of the Tudors but that’s not necessarily a bad thing - Elizabeth I was a great monarch. Also, it’s clearly a known welsh name and your baby will have welsh heritage, so it makes sense from that perspective. I’ve never heard it before but I like it.

Tudor is the anglicised form of Tudur (pron. TIDD-irr, tidd as in tiddly, irr as in irrigate or irregular etc)

Both are used in Wales.

I know more Tudors than Tudurs, and I like the name although I wouldn't use it.

Watch out for some saying Chew-duh or Chew-dor.

Thatcher isn't a first name.

Nothing wrong with granddad names - both my grandfathers' first names and middle names are very popular, and my father's name crops up on here every now and then and people seem to like it.

FWIW, I think Plum is cute and I would think of Plum Sykes.

May and Eden get suggested as a name quite a lot as do Blair, 'Heath and Cameron, and also Lloyd and George, Primrose, Stuart and Percival (Perceval).

Some others could be considered but Thatcher is probably too divisive.

I like Tudor. I know a few.

Tudor is fine, or spelled the Welsh way. Thatcher has too many connotations. Fletcher?

If you want to honour DH's grandfather and aren't going to be living in Wales (where people know the name as Tudor), would Theodore work?

FWIW, I think Plum is cute and I would think of Plum Sykes.

She was christened Victoria though! Plum is one of those obscure, tenuous nicknames that posh people go in for (see also Beetle for Alexander). It's not actually her official name.

If she's known as Plum Sykes then that is her name.

Lots of actors and authors use stage or pen names.

Spike is a nn (Lee.Milligan), now used as a first name (R. Curtis & E. Freud's DC), so why can't Plum be a first name?