Ellis & Cai proper welsh names or chavy?

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I need a welsh boys name for DS3. My DH is welsh but never suggests anything. I'm English.

I want something shortish and that can be easily read by non welshies.

Are Cai & Ellis options or not really Welsh names ?

I quite like Euan / Ewan but is the welsh version Iuan ? As sure that would be said differently in welsh and in England ( where we live I guess it would end up as Ian)

In the family there is already Bryn, Gareth, Huw, Dylan, Rhys, Ianto

Kai is a different name (technically, at least!). There is no K in the Welsh alphabet, but it sometimes appears in "borrowed" words.

Cai is the Welsh form of Caius. Cai appears as one of King Arthur's knights in the tale of Culhwch and Olwen in the Mabinogion, which is acollection of stories compiled in the 12th to 13th centuries, and the earliest prose literature in Britain.

Not so Wayne Rooney, really!

If you want a short name, how about Aled?

@Marv1nGay3 (love the username btw)

I like Dai and would link to my DHs father who was Dafydd, but I can get past it being like Die, I'm not superstitious but I'm not sure I could name a baby that.

I know there's the welsh rugby player Dai Young

Aled has be given the thumbs down by DH .. alas !

What do you think about Gethin, Emrys or Lloyd?

@Marv1nGay3 **cannot get past it

Idris?

Ellis is definitely a Welsh name (my Welsh-first-language uncle is Ellis) but I think spelt Elis is Welsh-er as a spelling?

Not feeling those @SecretNutellaFix but thanks for trying

Not keen on Iyestyn either too hard for English people (like me ) to get right

I knew 3 boys with Welsh parents, they were Ianto, Kai and, this may be completely the wrong spelling, Shuni.

Ianto became one of my favourite names.
I have a brother called Bryn too, another Welsh name.

Macsen, Iolo?

Would you consider David?

If you're spelling it the Welsh way I think it's Elis, not Ellis. I prefer that to Cai.

I know a doctor who is Ellis - not chavy at all!
Cai on the other hand....

I know a barrister Ellis.

I also know a Deian? And Dylan is easy to pronounce?

I think Aled or Dylan would be good choices for you, given local pronunciation issues.

Or Gethin?

Elis would be one ‘l’ in Welsh

Cai is hideous

How about...

Morgan
Dylan
Emlyn
Idris
Macsen/Maxen
Owen
Rhys
Tomos

How about Alun. I like Ellis but not Cai.

I also like Rhydian

Seen Ellis spelt Elis as well.

Ellis is the English version of the welsh name Elis. Ll has a particular sound in Welsh. It’s not L.

Maxen

There’s no ‘x’ in the welsh alphabet.

And Dylan is easy to pronounce?

Amazingly not.

Most people pronounce it Dill-an, which is wrong. Welsh pronunciation is Dull-an.