Saoirse pronouncing

[BHillary]

How do you pronounce Saoirse?

Sur-sha or sear-sha?

I prefer the first but not if it isn't correct hmm.

I think it can depend where from Ireland you are as to sair-sha or sur-sha. Like caoimhe which can be kee-va or quee-va

I feel sorry for Saoirse Ronan and the slagging she comes in for over her accent. If you listen to clips of her as a little kid she sounds exactly the same. She grew up in Carlow, but aren’t her parents Dubs? Makes sense to me she sounds like she does.

I think it’s just classic old Irish begrudgery, she’s so amazingly successful that we must find something to chastise her over. And this is it!

As for the name itself, I’d pronounce it seer-sha.

Sorcha pronounced sore-sha makes me do an inward 'Grrrr' (possibly an outward one too). No Irish person would pronounce dorcha like dore-sha so I have no idea why some people insist on doing this to poor old Sorcha!

Sorcha, which is saw-ra-ka.

Good lord, I had no idea!

If I came across Saoirse blind I would go for “sear sha”

I’m sure the BBC announcer went for “Sar sha” when Brooklyn was on a short while ago. I didn’t think it was right.

I think it’s just classic old Irish begrudgery

Whoops I don't mean to add to that. I didn't realise she gets criticised for her accent a lot.

@squoosh That's yet another thing I've asked in response to getting called "sorsha" - why don't they also say "dorsha" instead of dorcha?! There's also Donncha(dh), Fiachra, Lochlann etc, plenty of names that don't get the shushy treatment but mine inexplicably does...

Justice for Sorchas!

I think the problem is that some Sorchas have been complicit in the shushing their own name. You need to call a Sorcha AGM and tell them to put an end to this nonsense. Let them know that any Sorcha who pronounces her names as sore-sha will henceforth be known as Gobnait!

I'm Irish and I pronounce it seer-sha, it I know other Irish people who say sir-sha. It's an accent thing and I think either is fine

It's called an accent! No English person is surprised that someone from the North of England says Frances differently to someone in the South of England, cos they have different accents. We have them too, even if English people think there is just one "Irish accent".

I'm midlands and have only ever heard one way of saying Frances.. ?
Lol

Of course you haven't. Frances with a short a or Frances with a long a, the same way bath is either bath or barth or castle or carstle.

Oh god, not the Frances thing again...

Seer-sha. I love the republic, freedom connotation of the name but not everyone will.

The Frances debate raged on and on

I've not got a bleeding clue about he Frances thing nor am I bothered cause I don't like the name lol, my posts about this name not that one.

@squoosh Gobnait 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Seer sha

Sair shuh/ or serr shuh.
I think it’s a lot to do with accents imo

Does anyone remember the Sorcha thread from a few years ago?

That raged on and on....!!

The OP wanted to use it for her baby girl and pronounce it Saw-sha.

Let's just say it didn't go well.

I do actually remember Sorchagate, the best part was OP claiming hers was the Scottish version and someone replied "how do you pronounce 'loch' then?"

I'm glad I've never had to say "sorcha" irl then! I've only ever heard people say "sawsha" for that name, never heard anyone say "sur a ka". I think "sorka" is as close as I could get to that in my accent without sounding ridiculous. Though I knew Saorise = sirsha.

It is such a horrid name and sound. Sorry.

@Bettyfood if you say "surrogate" without the T at the end you've practically got it, if that helps

Thanks Nigel I will try that. I'll certainly ask any Sorchas I meet how to pronounce their name first, anyway!

Have to say I prefer the pronunciation of "sawsha" as a name and also like Saorise.

It's not Sur-sha or ser-sha or Sir-sha (all of which I would pronounce the same).

It's either Seer-sha or Sair-sha.

Seer-sha is Connemara and Ulster Irish and Sair-sha is SE, SW Ireland Irish.

Saoirse Ronan mispronounces it because in a Dublin accent 'inertia' is pronounced 'in-air-sha', but I suspect she has been taught somewhere along the way not to say 'in-air-sha' and to use the more D4 'in-ur-sha' pronunciation - however she says her name rhymes with 'in-ur-sha', maybe because she is seeing it in writing in her head instead of listening to the sounds. Hence all the 'sur-sha' problems.
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TheDowagerCuntess - that was unforgettable.