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'Chavvy' name.

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Awandinmypocket · 11/08/2017 21:16

So for baby no 1 we considered Caleb, however we had a beautiful girl instead. Was considering Caleb again for baby number 2 but saw a post the other day where someone referred to it as a 'chavvy' name 'like Kayden and Jayden' (their words not mine) do people agree with this comment?! I see it as a biblical name (and the singer from Kings of Leon,actually)
Other contender is Rafferty. Middle name will be James.

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MikeUniformMike · 17/08/2017 14:09

Chavvy does not mean working class. The Oxford English Dictionary defines chav as an informal British derogatory, meaning "a young lower-class person who displays brash and loutish behaviour and wears real or imitation designer clothes".

MikeUniformMike · 17/08/2017 14:11

Is Bear a chavvy name? I think Rafferty might be. Any others?

squoosh · 17/08/2017 14:15

Most people who use the word chavvy do so to indicate something working class. People fall over themselves to deny that of course.

MikeUniformMike · 17/08/2017 14:22

I think most people use the word chavvy to mean lower class not working class. I don't particularly like the word, but someone could be chavvy without being working class.

A chavvy name IMO would be one where the parents are young and not very academic or aspirational, and would choose a name of a sport star or celebrity for their baby.

eyebrowsonfleek · 17/08/2017 14:39

I take chavvy to mean the sort of name that conjures an image of a person on Jeremy Kyle. I think on MN it's often shorthand for the child who's a giant pita. So if you know a Jayden in your kid's class and they have nightmare behaviour then that name becomes "tainted" and you think of them when you hear the name Jayden.

I know that I'm going to be flamed for talking about kids with nightmare behaviour (because they must have SEN ) but all schools/classes have a kid who others have to be wary of.

MikeUniformMike · 17/08/2017 15:08

Yes, you've got it eyebrows.
There are definitely names that teachers think 'Hmm, one of those' about.

SantasLittleMonkeyButler · 17/08/2017 15:13

Caleb is not in the same group as Kayden, Jayden, Caylen etc. etc.!

It may sound similar but it's a million times nicer.

MikeUniformMike · 17/08/2017 15:20

Caylen is a new one for me. Yuk, sorry. It's put me off Kayleb.

mathanxiety · 17/08/2017 20:38

Caylen might be a Youneek spelling of Caoilfhionn.

Before they became popular, OT names were more widely used by the travelling community or American evangelicals.
I don't think that is correct. Irish Travellers (if that is the group you had in mind) stuck with Patrick and Brigid and similar names. American evangelicals are fairly new to the scene, and names are all over the map, with names like Brad, Trent, Chad, Parker, etc as likely to be found as Jeremiah or Josiah, etc. I don't think Abraham Lincoln was an evangelical, despite his OT name.

The part of Ireland where my mother grew up had naming traditions that included OT and unusual names - thinking of Moses and Simeon from the OT, and Laserian, Moling and Anastatia as examples from early Christian history for both boys and girls (first two boys, last one girls).

Not everyone reads the bible or takes an interest in the Christian religion.
You can be interested in history or wider culture or names people call their children, and therefore take an interest in the Christian Bible or the Koran or other landmark documentation of a religious community.

mathanxiety · 17/08/2017 20:39

American evangelicals are fairly new to the scene as a group with any influence.

MikeUniformMike · 17/08/2017 20:41

Oh, I didn't realise. I get it now.

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