Jayden

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Finding it really hard to pick a boys name, I've got a little boy called Louie and thinking of Jayden for this one could be shortend to J or middle name will be Joseph as that's my dads name so Jayden Joseph could also be JJ. Honest opinions please :)

Wouldn't you pronounce Jago like Iago, though? So it couldn't be J for short.

Or am I being too middle class about it?

Jago is usually pronounced 'Jay-go'.

Even by middle class people!

I really like the sound of the name Jayden but again far prefer it's spelled Jaden/Jaiden. I have a bit of a thing about 'y's in the middle of names - it ruins the flow weird!

I didn't realise that Jaden was a popular name, I've never met one and so wouldn't judge any that I met (and no, DC did not go to a lovely village school). If anything I would say it was quite american sounding along with names like Riley, Jackson etc but nothing wrong with that!

If you think that Jaden Joseph is a bit too matchy matchy have you considered Aidan? I know it's been mentioned but Aidan Joseph does lend itself to the nickname AJ which is sweet

No usual I am not, but you seem quite determined to misrepresent everything I say, so not much hope you will actually read this properly.

I am saying that in my experience over 15 years I have never had a case where the children are called certain names. But I have had a variety of. Jayden's/Kaiden's etc, etc.

This obviously does not mean that middle class children are never taken into care. What it represents is that MY experience shows me children called Jayden are in proceedings more than children called Thomas.

This informs my opinion that the name Jayden is more likely to be given by parents suffering a degree of social/emotional deprivation that makes care proceedings more likely to be initiated.

I appreciate my opinion is not based on statistical analysis of every care application over the past 20 years. But I also think that I have more than just anecdotes.

Hence my reaction to the name. Hence my honest opinion.

But not I stress again - because it seems I have to keep saying it - because I support or agree with prejudice based on class or anything else.

I have just googled, and discovered that Jago, pronounced Jay-go is a Cornish variant of James, however, it may also be pronounced like Iago, by Spanish speakers.

In case the OP (are you still with us?) is interested.

I have a dgs called John Joseph which I prefer to Jayden but if you like it use it.

I would be interested to know what the point of these baby name threads actually are, given that they don't seem to do anything but provoke massive upset for people who obviously don't like other people giving opinions about names they have chosen for their children.

Which of course is understandable. But it is not as if I have wandered into a toddler group and started telling people they make appalling choices which will for ever make them pariahs from the middle classes.

Of course, if you like a name, use it. Maybe in time we will break down the barriers of class, education and social immobility that so paralyse us as a society.

But don't shoot the messenger, particularly not on a thread that has actively sought 'honest opinion'.

Jadon means 'thankful' or 'he will judge' in Hebrew. It is in the book of Nehemiah. So it is ironic that people say,"Ooooooh you can't imagine a High Court judge with that name."

The irony is indeed cruel.

I hate the Jayden spelling, much prefer the original Jadon.

However I like the sound of the name.

Spero, you have remained very calm against a lot of misreadings of your words.

If somebody has asked for opinions, they're expecting opinions. If I pointed out to an op that in a lot of areas Minnie is a slang term for female genitalia, I would not be saying that any Minnie cannot transcend the association or that it is even a reason for not choosing the name should you not be bothered by the connection. It's merely a point of consideration.

There are a million little markers in our lives of who we are and where we come from; our cultural norms, our socioeconomic background and aspirations, the influences upon us from home and society all these things have an effect in general terms on how we dress, style our hair, talk, name our children, socialise etc. Because we are part of a society with norms and values and the average person makes connection between the things s/he sees and remembers them. It's a normal and healthy behaviour. It is how all children learn. Spotting patterns and having expected outcomes. It even keeps you safe. Those alarm bells that ring sometimes or the sense of unease you feel, comes from experience and an innate ability to relate the immediate to the lessons of the past.

And of course we do it with names. Of course we do. If I am told that the other couple attending the same dinner party as me is Ludmilla and Ptolemy, I might reasonably associate those names with a particular group or socioeconomic background. I might reasonably assume that Chantal and Dave come from a different background to Ludmilla and Tolly. What makes me a twat is judging them in advance for this, assuming either couple is better or worse, clinging to preconceived notions if my expectations are wrong.

All spero is doing is pointing out that Jayden is a name which has some of these values attached. It is not a reason not to use it if you like it. It isn't a death sentence. All children transcend their names. But people ask on baby names because they want to know how the name is perceived.

FWIW, I have only ever met one Jayden and one Jaiden. Both belonged to the socioeconomic group sometimes associated with the name. Sample size of two and tells you nothing about their personalities, prospects or parents in real terms.

Good post AntinousWild

Surelyjason is due a revival?

I love the name 'jay' I imagine smooth, American writer.

But maybe she found it helpful to understand why there were so many 'hate it's.'

I dunno, I skipped to last page. I always do on baby names.

Jayden is the equivalent of 'Jason' these days. It's going to date badly and the child will get called 'Jayo' which is horrible.

However I can't believe someone upthread suggested Jeremy, Jonty and Jasper instead. From one extreme to the other. Wet toff names are as scoffed at as 'common' ones!

Joseph is lovely, although I know you can't use it.

I saw, 'call him mcjaydon' tho. I thought that was genius.

Is Jasper a "toff" name?

I've never met one in real life.

Surely the wettest name in history is Crispin? I rather like a posh sounding name but no, nope, never. I've rather call it Baby.

Why they 'let' Storm into Oxford?

m.theboatrace.org/men/rower-profile/4516

He's one of the ringers they use nowadays.

So all working class people like Jayden? Good to know.

I have worked with several Jayden/jaiden/jaden's

All from different backgrounds

I wouldn't choose it myself but I wouldn't assume something of someone who did choose it