The mushroom poisoning in Vic...... we are gripped!.....Part 3

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I don’t think it’s that bizarre to hide healthy foods in snacks. I get a bit of a kick out of that to be honest with my own kids.

(I do think she’s guilty actually)

I am torn on this child support thing. I also have limited understanding of how it works in Australia. They were still married had lots of property. Both had income from rentals and if thats what the agency said he should pay then that makes sense. Yes it is the bear minumum but maybe he didn't want to play Erin's controlling games as we have all seen.
At first look it looks shit but if look below the surface maybe it isn't so clear.

Mathew rang Erin early Monday morning. That's when her lies about the mushrooms began, and persisted, wasting the department of health's time. She could have told anyone at any time she'd foraged some of the mushrooms in the meal, but she didn't.

They suspected after they were lucky enough to speak to a toxicology expert late Sunday night that it might be mushroom poisoning rather than food poisoning. Treatment would have been significantly hastened if she had been honest about her "mistake" from the get go.

I hide dehydrated vegetables in all the brownies and muffins I make my kids. Their waffles are mostly cauliflower!

you can buy dehydrated vegetables in packets at Coles now so you don’t even need a dehydrator.

But she was discussing it on a true crime message board

... that's what I found odd

Yes, not mushroom for doubt really.

It was said that a smaller group formed as more of a friendship group followed on from the big true crime group of that woman whose name I can't remember.

I think it’s started as a true crime group but went off in all directions

Keli Lane - who said she gave her missing baby away to a man called Andrew Norris or Morris.

is she criminally responsible?

initially she told police she had never foraged for mushrooms

Since we are asking more random questions atm, how common is it for teens to take flying lessons in rural Victoria?

It's not common, but it certainly can be done. There is a base in Tyabb where EP apparently took her son for lessons.

Peninsula Aero Club

They obviously weren’t short of money and flying is feasible in a huge place like Aus. I’d love to be able to fly! I am sure it is expensive though so perhaps not that common even there.

Jury foreman - We cannot reach a unanimous verdict your Honour.
Judge - OK Erin, you are free to go. I'm not sitting through this sh!t all over again.

Does Australia allow majority verdicts - ie 11:1 or 10:2? I was on a jury once that couldn't reach a majority verdict.

But it will be interesting to see what the jury comes to. Not all jury decisions have any logic to them.

Not for murder in Victoria sadly.

I'm not sure if Oz allows majority verdicts, but in this case I read that the judge has called for a unanimous verdict.

I don't know what would happen if they fail to reach a unanimous verdict. Maybe then they would be allowed to reach a majority verdict. The legals on here might know.

No majority verdicts allowed in Victoria. The judge will send them back in to deliberate, and if they can't come to a unanimous verdict it will be declared a hung jury.

The judge always calls for a unanimous verdict on the trials where I have been a juror.

But we were allowed a majority verdict after a day and a bit as we were hopelessly divided - a Crown Court case where 5 jurors believed that the police ALWAYS told the truth, and 5 believed that the police NEVER told the truth ... and just 2 of us that wanted to talk evidence among a lot of "gut feelings" about who was telling the truth/lying.

However the mechanism whereby we got to a majority 10 was totally bizarre, But then again the entire case was really odd with a feeling that something else was going on.

And if it’s hung…?

They are allowed in Victoria, but not for murder.

Yes, this is a murder trial we are speaking about.

Jury dismissed and new trial needed.

More info here:

www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-30/erin-patterson-mushroom-murder-trial-jury-deliberation-explainer/105374450

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