To think Auriol Grey being jailed is not appropriate.

I think what she did was awful, but it surely just highlights the lack of appropriate social care she clearly needed?

Oh I’m so fed up of shitty people being blamed on a ‘lack of state support’. You turn 18, unless you’re clinically insane you take responsibility for your actions. Especially when they’re this serious.

I think it's entirely appropriate as her actions caused the death of the female cyclist

Not to mention the poor driver who hit the cyclist as she was driving past when the incident occurred.

This poor women in her 30s with 2 young children sounds totally traumatised by the experience and I read her marriage has broken down too.

So much carnage occurring after her action

If it was a man who'd intimated her causing death people would be up in arms if they got off with it

Yep it would be ‘women’s lives are cheap, especially older ones’ or ‘typical bullying man thinking he can police everything around him’

Yet a jury, who will have seen and hear far more than the one shortened video you have, convicted her.

but you know better?

Well I don't know what video you're watching but the fact it's narrow is the first thing that's apparent. It's very narrow.

It's 2.4m. It isn't 'very narrow'.

It depends on circumstances, and an early guilty plea is usually taken into account when it comes to sentencing (which didn't happen here). Simon Draper was sentenced to five years for killing a cyclist.

I'm a bit of a softy usually, but in my opinion there is no excuse for leaving the scene. She literally left the poor woman there to die and went and did her shopping.

That pavement is 2.4 metres wide. It’s not narrow. Added to which, it’s shared use so the cyclist had as much right to be on it as the pedestrian.

Average over 140 pedestrians killed or seriously injured by cyclists every year.

Maybe consider contacting Auriol Grey’s legal team and volunteer your services as an expert witness.

What are you basing this on?

Do people watch the video and still think she shouldn’t be in prison??

Ah the old autism excuse. Do fuck off.

Numerous serial killers, criminals and murderers have ASD. It does not abslove them of their guilt.

As long as someone understands the difference between right and wrong, which clearly Gray does, they are fully responsible for their actions. Both criminally and morally.

@Redebs

Link to that stat please?

The path was a shared cycle / foot path. The cyclist had every right to be there.

Push or no push she frightened the poor poor lady into the road and her death. Chain of causation- if it weren’t for her actions the victim would be alive.

You think 2.4m is narrow, very narrow?

Maybe when you graduate from the Diagnosing Autism via the Internet diploma course, you could spend a bit of time familiarising yourself with a tape measure.

I've lived here, my parents still do, there is no split on the pavement, this is a normal pavement and it is not easily clear that bikes can ride on it. Bikes shouldn't be going fast here, in fact with pedestrians they should get off the bike at this point and wait until it opens out a bit further down the road. She should be punished but as I said before it is too long a sentence when she obviously felt threatened by a the cyclist, in most situations cyclists shouldn't be on the pavement. The onus should be on them to be careful of pedestrians

That has never been confirmed! They couldn't establish that at court and it looks like a normal footpath in the video

On that post now taken down
According to newspaper on the sentencing.
The woman admitted long ago she had known about the cannabis for over a year. On MN she said she knew nothing.
She had watered it. On MN she said she knew nothing
It was not an outhouse far away, she lives in Dublin in a terraced house with 3 kids ( not 4 ) and her partner. The outhouse is most of her garden.
The cannabis grower her partner lives in the same house.

Just thought I’d update as so many MN felt sorry for her.

It’s not the cyclist’s fault and absolutely chilling this woman apparently felt no remorse and wandered off to get her shopping. I also imagine the bit of CCTV we are not shown must be damning. However, tbh, I wouldn’t be happy with a council that allowed a narrow pavement to be shared by cyclists and pedestrians (and, it seems, even if not officially allowed, a blind eye was turned to it) - it’s dangerous and unfair to pedestrians, unless the cyclist dismounts when approaching the pedestrian, or leaves a very safe distance between themselves and the pedestrian, which would then mean waving arms should not really be much of an issue. Is the pavement far wider than it looks from CCTV? I really don’t think cyclists understand how frightening they can be to a pedestrian - too many cyclists use the roads and pavements in a pretty selfish way, expecting both cars and pedestrians to get out of their way, rather than respecting the pedestrian as being vulnerable and not the one who chose to take the risk of getting on a bicycle. It doesn’t really seem right that the cyclist had to use that inappropriate-looking space in the first place.

On the roads, cars now can only pass cyclists if they leave quite a big gap between themselves and the cyclist, and the cyclist is allowed to cycle right in the middle of the lane, they don’t have to squash themselves in towards the kerb to help the car get past. There is also a hierarchy of road users. Is there no hierarchy of dual use pavement users and no minimum distance for a cyclist to safely pass a pedestrian?

Ps 99,000 euros worth of cannabis

It really is amazing the number of internet warriors who despite being not in full possession of all the facts have decided the jury and the judge were completely wrong.

I can only hope you're never asked to do jury service

Having a disability doesn’t mean she is incapable of wrongdoing

So it could be argued that she had accidentally knocked into the cyclist and he had fallen off his bike. That’s clearly not what happened but there are circumstances in which that could have happened.

But there is literally no justification for knocking someone into the road, leaving them to die there and then going out and doing your shopping. None what so ever.

The fact that sentencing for many traffic offences (particularly drink driving) is ridiculously lenient, doesn’t make this one too harsh. If the victim were a young child rather than an elderly ladyshe’d be getting a lot less sympathy.