To be disgusted at the petty minded cruelty of Robert Jenrick?

He is in parliament answering questions on the illegal migration bill

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1678757885881229312?s=20

Yvette Cooper: Is it true that he gave orders to... paint over children's cartoons... as no one believes that Mickey Mouse cartoons either encourage or deter boats to arrive.. he's not showing common decency to vulnerable children..

Robert Jenrick: Her compassion is performative

Doubling down. Nice. Hope his constituents are taking note.

He seemed to have received the same briefing as some posters

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1678762084652441601?s=20

Challenged by @hilarybennmp on having cartoons removed at a refugee centre for children, Jenrick changes his story a third time. Last week it was that the centre looked too welcoming. Then murals were not Home Office approved. Now, they weren't age appropriate for teens.

Yes - amazing how certain posters were singing from tne sane dodgy song sheet.
Mickey Mouse is 'scary' - unlike a detention centre of course. So it was for their own good - nothing to do with being welcoming after all.

I note he didn't recommend what he thought was age appropriate wall art.

The same not the sane - it's anything but sane.

Surely if they were testing the li(n)es out on us, they would have worked out they were a bit rubbish?

Well they had to work with what they had (not much).
It's not as if they could repeat what was actually said ie that the murals were 'too welcoming'.

His cruelty is performative!

I was mistaken/misinformed.
When I said that I thought the paintings were 'scary' I was under the impression that the centre was for young(er) children.
Now I understand that this is a centre for older children (16/17), then I agree they are not 'age-appropriate'.

I'm also still waiting for Yvette Cooper (or any of her pals) to come up with a better idea about solving the problem of Channel Crossings. I guess I'll be waiting a long time. 🙄

Safe Routes

This has been discussed before on this thread, but for those that missed it.

The UK currently operates several safe and legal immigration routes:

• The UK Resettlement Scheme, Community Sponsorship, and the Mandate Scheme are refugee resettlement programmes.
• Refugee family reunion visas are available to people who were immediate relatives of people granted refuge in the UK, before they left their country of origin (known as pre-flight relatives).
• Nationality-specific bespoke immigration routes are available to some Afghans, Ukrainians, and people from Hong Kong.

The centre has dealt with children as young as 9. So entirely age appropriate.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/home-secretary-suella-braverman-safe-legal-route-migrant-uk

It's the it's not age appropriate excuse.

They had a week to get that message out - but were happy to have the "It's not to make people feel welcome" excuse.

I think that on balance, they probably lost more voters with that than they gained.

He asked Braverman to outline “a safe legal route for me to come to the United Kingdom” for the hypothetical example of a 16-year-old orphan from Africa who was escaping a war zone, facing religious persecution, and who already had a sibling legally living in Britain.

That's a rather vague question, so Suella gave a vague answer.
Africa is a big place.
In order to set up 'safe and legal routes' then we need to have an agreement with the country concerned.
Some countries in Africa have a Civil War taking place, so we would be unable to set up any agreement until it was decided who was actually running the country and there was a stable infrastructure.

Just to be clear - the following countries in Africa have a Civil War taking place as I write;-
Burkino Faso, Cameroon, CAR (Central African Republic), Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ethiopia, Libya, Mali, Mozambique, Nigeria, Senegal, Somalia, South Suda, Sudan.

HTH

@Eveninginparis

Do you know the stats for the number of refugees in the world?
Do you know the number of refugees in countries?
Do you know what fraction of refugees we took in the UK?

All here if you want to take a look

This is how many came in the boats (apart from Albania at about 12,000)

Afghanistan - 8429
Then In third was Iran (5,450), followed by Iraq (4,041) and Syria (2,596)

Sudan - 1712
Egypt - 1230
India - 1321
Turkey - 1189
Vietnam - 489
Ethiopia - 453

Meanwhile:

108,000,000 people who are displaced at the moment.
6.5 million Syrian refugees
5.7 million Afghan refugees
5.7 million Ukrainian refugees

Iran itself has 2.6 million Afghan refugees.

And in Africa

Countries in sub-Saharan Africa hosted 1 in 5 of all refugees globally. A total of 7 million refugees remained displaced at the end of 2022, a slight
increase from the previous year.

The East and Horn of Africa and the Great Lakes region hosted
4.7 million refugees, primarily in Uganda (1.5 million), Sudan (1.1 million) and Ethiopia (879,600), which is consistent with the previous year.

West and Central African countries hosted 1.6 million refugees at the end of 2022, 5 per cent more than the previous year.
Almost 85 per cent of all refugees in the region resided in Chad (592,800),
Cameroon (473,900) and Niger (255,300).
Countries in Southern Africa continued to host slightly more than three-quarters of a million refugees (773,000), with most residing in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (520,500).

Does that put things in some perspective for you?

Oh - and safe and legal routes

"The global resettlement scheme is open to vulnerable refugees around the world. Individuals coming through this scheme are assessed and referred by the UNHCR according to their criteria, which is based on people’s needs and vulnerabilities.
People coming via this route only move to the UK once suitable accommodation is in place for them. Since its launch in 2021, the UK has taken refugees through this route from countries including Ethiopia, Iraq, Sudan, Syria, Afghanistan, Eritrea, Somalia, South Sudan, and Yemen.
Since the first arrivals under the new UK Resettlement scheme in March 2021, 2,023 refugees have been resettled in the UK via the UKRS, as of December 2022."

Sources on refugees
Global Trends Report 2022 | UNHCR

Sources on Government schemes

Safe and legal routes - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Some countries have a LOT more refugees than we do.

We see literally the tip of the iceberg.

(Thread here)

Interesting data map on where people who cross the Channel in boats are coming from | Mumsnet

No it doesn't.
I don't give a flying fig how many refugees etc other countries are taking in.

We are the third most densely populated country in Europe (first is Holland, then Netherlands)

We don't have the room or the infrastructure to do any more than what we are already doing at the moment.

It always amuses me that those people who want an 'open door' policy for refugees/migrants etc are the first to complain when they can't get their kids in the school of their choice/can't get a doctor's appointment, roads are snarled up with traffic, there is a food shortage etc etc

We are the third most densely populated country in Europe (first is Holland, then Netherlands)
Erm….

And your problem with that statement is ........?

🙄

That post is more dense than a black holw.

*hole

So flabbergasted by geographical ignorance that I forgot how to type!