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AIBU?

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Therapist touched me after I said no, but I liked it at the time. Am I justified in feeling anger years later? *MNHQ adding content warning for SA*

98 replies

Feelinggrosstoday · 01/07/2023 06:23

Not explicit touching but uncomfortably intimate. Stroking just under breasts. I had said no very clearly on several previous times when they had asked for a hug. Prior to this, they had touched my face, and once kissed my cheek like you would do a friend, not sexual but just sort of overly familiar.

At the time I felt I enjoyed the closeness and the warmth but it was very confusing and things did not end well. I was extremely vulnerable.

Years later now I actually feel angry at the fact that despite saying no, they just didn't ask and made physical contact.

AIBU?

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heldinadream · 01/07/2023 06:25

Is this a male therapist with a woman client OP?

Feelinggrosstoday · 01/07/2023 06:27

Both women. Both bisexual.

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sarahc336 · 01/07/2023 06:29

A therapist did this? Report them op please. I'm a therapist and I cannot ever imagine ever doing this in the role I have, awful awful practice.

sarahc336 · 01/07/2023 06:31

It also doesn't matter that they were female it massively over steps the boundaries within a therapeutic relationship massively. We shouldn't be touching our clients ever even a touch or a hug as we don't know what contact might be triggering for certain people. It's a no go op. If a client goes to hug me that's different but a therapist shouldn't be the one to decide to do this defiantly not to kiss a client .

ChequeredPastel · 01/07/2023 06:32

Definitely inappropriate of them, I don’t think that they should even have made you aware that they are bisexual.

it’s not your fault at all - it’s very normal to feel attracted to/close to a therapist, that’s why they should be even more careful to ensure boundaries.

Feelinggrosstoday · 01/07/2023 06:34

I feel like touch was being used in a manipulative sort of way tbh, because I'd said no to touch and then she did it anyway.

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determinedtomakethiswork · 01/07/2023 06:36

That is pure, cognitive dissonance isn't it? You trust your therapist. Your therapist abuses you. Trying to put those two pieces together in your mind really messes you up. You really do need to report her.

Babsexxx · 01/07/2023 07:16

This is sexual though that’s why your angry and bludy rightfully so! Report them! I can’t remember the last time I stroked even my closest mates under there breasts?! Sorry op but I think you don’t want to believe this was sexual I am telling you it absolutely was. Sorry op.

Sunnysidegold · 01/07/2023 07:17

This is so horrible op. You explicitly said you didn't want to be touched and she touched you??

It needs to be reported.

Silverbook · 01/07/2023 07:32

if you can you must report this. It’s an abuse of trust, power and your vulnerability.

Lacucuracha · 01/07/2023 07:42

This is horrific, OP.She abused the trust you put in her. She shouldn’t have even asked for a hug, let alone touch you inappropriately.

Report her, you may get closure and she may be stopped from doing it to another woman.

RedHelenB · 01/07/2023 07:44

Feelinggrosstoday · 01/07/2023 06:34

I feel like touch was being used in a manipulative sort of way tbh, because I'd said no to touch and then she did it anyway.

You clearly said no so she should have respected this. I too would report this.

MajesticWhine · 01/07/2023 07:49

I'm a therapist - this is so wrong. Please report her before she can do more damage.
You enjoying it makes no difference- a therapy relationship can be very intense, this is why clear boundaries must always be respected.

ToxicBiennial · 01/07/2023 07:50

Sex/ gender doesn’t matter whoever’s asking that.

A therapist shouldn’t be initiating this sort of contact at all. Completely unprofessional and boundary overstepping. This therapist was using you to meet their own needs. Sorry it happened to you.

Responding to a client asking for a quick hug is one thing. In some cases offering to place a hand on someone’s arm if they need it can also be ok. But what you describe is very wrong and needs reporting if you feel up to doing so.

TickTickTock · 01/07/2023 07:54

Yes, of course it's ok to feel angry. You were violated by someone in a position of trust who took advantage of you when you were vulnerable. Please please report her if you feel able to - she may do this to other people. The fact that you are still affected by this years later shows how dangerous she is as a therapist. I'm so so sorry to this happened to you. Something similar happened to me when I was 18 and I lived with the feelings for 15 years before seeking help. I was actually referred to a local rape/sexual abuse service and received counselling from them which helped massively. You could do that too. Take care xx

veryfluffyfluff · 01/07/2023 07:58

Thats awful I'm sorry this happened to you

Whataretheodds · 01/07/2023 08:02

What your therapist did was wrong. No ifs no buts. She took advantage of you being vulnerable and trusting her. If it felt nice to you that doesn't make it any less wring and it certainly. doesn't mean you can't be angry

I once had a masseur touch my genital area deliberately. In the context of the massage - I was feeling very relaxed, soothing music, aromatherapy oils - the physical sensation was actually quite nice, but it was absolutely not what I had consented to and a betrayal of the trust I had placed in him. I was furious. When a client is in a vulnerable position the therapist should be even more careful, not less.

wildfirewonder · 01/07/2023 08:10

Your therapist was completely in the wrong.
You can still report them if you wish, but you do not have to.

Beautiful3 · 01/07/2023 08:23

Of course the therapist was wrong. There should be no touching whatsoever.

mummam28 · 01/07/2023 08:28

This happened to me with a male therapist when I was 18. He touched me inappropriately and asked me extremely inappropriate questions. He told me to masturbate as a way to calm down and relieve my anxiety. I still think about it a lot and really wish I'd reported it at the time.

Please report.

Clarinet1 · 01/07/2023 08:30

This was inappropriate and just wrong. A key
part of the therapy setting is a certain detachment and intimate touching goes beyond the boundaries. You have not said how you first
found this therapist or what her accreditations and qualifications are. If you feel strong enough I think you should report her to BACP (mentioned above) or whoever she is accredited by and possibly also to whatever centre or practice she works at as this going on does not look good for them either.

sarahc336 · 01/07/2023 10:28

Please for those on this thread with experiences please find the registering body, normally bacp if counselling or babcp for cbt and report them. Just an email with a name is all it will take. Unethical practice and I'm horrified.

Feelinggrosstoday · 01/07/2023 17:41

Thank you.

I am angry, but also feel a bit embarrassed and guilty as it seems like it was my fault. She would say her boundaries were really poor with me and it wasn't like that with others and get quite aggressive, like it was my fault. Almost like "look what you made me do".

Now I do understand logically it wasn't my fault, it was her responsibility to maintain her own boundaries and not do unprofessionals stuff but it really fucked with my head.

It makes me sad and embarrassed that when I was trying to get help with the issue that originally brought me into therapy, I wasn't treated with respect and dignity.

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Custardonthehob · 01/07/2023 17:47

Owwf, she's sounding even more like a predator there! She was the one with professional obligations and in a position of trust, which she abused.

Your healing is paramount. Another factor is that she may remain in this role with access to potentially vulnerable clients. Wishing you all the best.