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Children playing in the garden

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Boytwinmum · 28/05/2023 16:34

Hi everyone.
My children, who are young teenagers, love being outside. I encourage it to avoid them being on screens too much.

We've lived in our current house for almost 3 years - this is our third summer here. Recently, my neighbours (I only have neighbours on one side) have taken a huge disliking to them playing in the garden. I spoke to the gentleman and we agreed a mutually acceptable time for them to stop playing was 10pm. I enforce this if they forget, but they are very conscious of the time limit.

Last night (Saturday) they went over by 2 minutes, so got really told off by the neighbour. I could hear the lady screaming at them that they are disrespectful and should be in bed by 10pm. My younger one was mortified and couldn't apologise enough, but she was livid. The screaming attracted my attention to the time, so I also apologised, but she said she was calling the police as we were disturbing their peace. Her and her husband then spent the next 20 minutes shouting at each other.

Well the police turned up today to speak to me, unfortunately we were out, but I saw them on my cameras.

What do I do? I really do dislike falling out with anybody. I understand that we all have different tolerance limits. I want to address it with them, but without making it worse or getting into a neighbour feud. I'm almost tempted to say that when they let their dog out to bark from 6am onwards, or do their glass recycling before 8am at a weekend is outside of my tolerance limits, but I say nothing to keep the peace - but if I say that does it look like tit for tat?

Any advice welcome please.

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Lightsgoingout · 28/05/2023 16:51

Anything past 9pm would annoy me. I don’t want to hear the constant banging from basketballs or footballs along with people screaming / chatting / laughing.

i can imagine the neighbours were already get wound up 8-10pm so lost it when it hit 10pm.

Once in a blue moon is fine but every night for months would make consider moving. Luckily we have really lovely respectful neighbours (currently)

Iguessyourestuckwithme · 28/05/2023 16:52

I have a family locally that make noise. I have no issue with this but their eldest absolutely riles the younger ones up and then there's tears and tantrums it's frustrating to listen to it all day and night.

Be honest are they irritating and / or loud/obnoxious. If yes, deal with it. If not then let them be.

TomatoSandwiches · 28/05/2023 16:53

You can make noise up to 11pm, I hope the police told them that, if they don't like it they can get ear plugs or move to a detached house, they have no other rights to demand you boys stop playing.
She sounds quite demented, screaming at you children, lovely behaviour.

arlow · 28/05/2023 16:54

I can sympathise with the neighbours. If they like to sit out in in the evenings and relax in the garden and your DC are playing basketball not just occasionally but every night it would probably stop them sitting outside. It's not unreasonable for you to use your garden, but that would drive me mad...and I have teens of my own.

Daisydu · 28/05/2023 16:54

at first I thought you are not being unreasonable but then you said they play basket ball. Do you know how bloody annoying that noise is? And to have it all evening till 10pm?! I’d be complaining also.

Esjolaol1973 · 28/05/2023 16:55

We had a miserable neighbour who always moaned about my children playing on trampoline .I just got them to stop at about 9 pm. Think that's OK and reasonable.

TheUsualChaos · 28/05/2023 16:56

Not justifying their reaction but kids playing in garden next to me until 10pm would piss me off too tbf 🤷‍♀️ would imagine basketball etc can be fairly loud if you were hoping to enjoy relaxing in the late evening in your own garden.

dontchaknow · 28/05/2023 16:57

Do your kids shriek, shout and holler, and do they bang balls against fences etc? If yes, then your neighbours aren't being unreasonable, the constant thunk thunk of balls against fences and shrieking at volume is irritating. But if it's normal conversation noise and there's no banging, then that's normal neighbour noise.

Dodger101 · 28/05/2023 16:58

Teenagers playing in their garden is not weird. Mine play football, basketball, American football and with the dogs. It's weird that people think teenagers playing sport is weird.

I'd get my DC to start coming in at 9pm. I would also ask the neighbours to stop their dogs barking at 6am. The noise conversation has been opened now. They should know that they are also making noise outside of sociable hours. I would mention the shouting at each other being loud and tell them not to yell at my kids again. They can go directly to you with any complaints if they can't be polite.

Boytwinmum · 28/05/2023 16:58

millymollymoomoo · 28/05/2023 16:49

Basketball and football are really really annoying to especially at that time
i imagine it’s really loud and I’d hate to live next door to you
technically they’re not doing anything wrong but I really sympathise with your neighbours!

I totally get it, and if it was every night I think it would wind everybody up! We've spoken about it and agreed 10pm with them. It had only become an issue this summer (so a few weeks) now the nights are lighter. Its a seasonal thing as they don't play in the winter.

I'm looking for advice on how to speak to them and what to say.....if they've changed their minds fair enough, but I've already installed the curfew and said no to Sundays; they are only here 50% of the time...I know.ill roll over when challenged and end up with two teens who can't be in the garden after 8pm if I get cornered, hence reaching out for opinion.

I promise I'm not a bad neighbour! I take in all their parcels and mow their lawn.i rebuilt my wall when they hit it with the car and said nothing, I don't complain about their noise (ironically they don't complain about the boys on the nights they have parties but again, summer time, and they deserve to enjoy their garden!.

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BCBird · 28/05/2023 16:59

Even though we might legally be able to make noise till 11pm,it is not the right thing to do if we have neighbours. I personally think 10pm.is late for noise. There is absolutely no excuse for rudeness though. I would call the police and arrange to go into station as they obviously want to speak to u.no point u worrying. I agree re people making noise way is not good too. I am.regularly up 5ish at weekends too,but would not dream.of making noise as there are lots of people who choose to have a lie in.

MinnieGirl · 28/05/2023 17:00

millymollymoomoo · 28/05/2023 16:49

Basketball and football are really really annoying to especially at that time
i imagine it’s really loud and I’d hate to live next door to you
technically they’re not doing anything wrong but I really sympathise with your neighbours!

Totally agree with that. I think 9pm is way late enough for the thud and crash of balls… outside talking quietly is totally reasonable.
But surely your neighbours shouting and carrying on were making way more noise than the boys?!
There has to be give and take. I would go and knock and say you’ve asked the boys to stop ball games a bit earlier as a goodwill gesture, as it appears they get upset by it. But at the same time, you are being woken by the dog at 6am and the glass recycling at weekends, and you would appreciate some consideration from them in exchange. Perhaps they didn’t realise how much you were having to put up with, or quite how much noise they were making… smile sweetly and also mention that to the police if they call back.

I would actually ring the police to arrange an appointment. I’m gobsmacked they came out for this, does make me wonder exactly what your neighbours have said..

kitsuneghost · 28/05/2023 17:01

Is there not a park they can maybe go play in instead. Teenagers playing ball games in a back garden seems really odd unless you have a huge garden.

RosettaTheGardenFairy · 28/05/2023 17:04

Basketball til 10pm a couple days a week, and you're asking what to say to your neighbours?! Apologise profusely and tell your teens to play ball games at a park, that might be a good start. You've said several times you're not a nightmare neighbour, but you are.

ZekeZeke · 28/05/2023 17:04

Having neighbours we expect a certain amount of noise.
The thud thud of a basketball on concrete and or/football bashing against a fence/wall is soul destroying and annoying.

Equally being woken up at 6am with dogs barking is annoying.

A bit of give and tske on both sides is needed. It was an overreaction on their side to call the police however perhaps you are not aware of the level of noise your DC's are making?

maryberryslayers · 28/05/2023 17:04

Stop trying to 'keep the peace' your neighbours clearly aren't bothered about keeping the peace with you, given they allow their dog to bark at 6 am, scream at your children and call the police on you. They sound insane.
Why are you allowing them to dictate how your children spend time in their own home!
As long as the noise stops at 11pm there's nothing the police or anyone else can or will do.
They have absolutely no right to shout at other peoples children, I'd be more bothered about that than I would some teenagers using their own garden for it's intended purpose.
Stop people pleasing, stand up for your children, they aren't doing anything wrong.
You don't need to 'make agreements' or live by their rules, you're an adult who has a right to use their own home within the law.
They are clearly hypocrites who think they can control what you do whilst doing what they like.
And stop mowing their bloody lawn!!

Soubriquet · 28/05/2023 17:04

People don’t like hearing noise. Especially kids for some reason.

I get annoyed hearing kids screaming in the garden. There’s a family a few doors down and I’m not kidding when I say their children go in to the garden just to scream as loud as possible for as long as they can. I find it extremely annoying but I don’t say anything. It’s their house, it’s not in the middle of the night when we are trying to sleep and whilst it’s irritating it’s not hurting anyone

ChimneyPot · 28/05/2023 17:05

They are complaining about kids playing ball in their own garden until 10pm but have their dog out barking at 6am daily?
I would not entertain the unless they addressed the barking issue.

JustFrustrated · 28/05/2023 17:05

kitsuneghost · 28/05/2023 17:01

Is there not a park they can maybe go play in instead. Teenagers playing ball games in a back garden seems really odd unless you have a huge garden.

This really tickled me.

There is a park opposite my mom's house and she's forever moaning about the teenagers hanging out there playing ball games 😂

LadyVictoriaSponge · 28/05/2023 17:06

Basketballs thumping every day for hours on end alone until 10pm would drive me insane let alone all the other loud things they do, no wonder they are fed up I would hate to, just because you can make noise until 11pm doesn’t mean you can make as much noise as you like, big difference.

Paperlate · 28/05/2023 17:06

It's fine for them to be in their own garden until 10 in the summer. Ignore your neighbour.

SchoolShenanigans · 28/05/2023 17:07

Your neighbours are being unreasonable to call the police over something so petty.

The police are being unreasonable to attend given they're complaining about children playing in a garden at 10.02pm (if what you're saying is the truth).

And YABU to allow kids to play outside until 10pm, that's way too late! 9pm is much more reasonable.

I would suggest you apologise, but state that you're aren't impressed that they called the police on something so small and I would probably ask if they're ok as you find that quite odd (the fact they argued afterwards suggests to me that she's irrational and her husband has had enough). Then, I would suggest the time moves forwards to 9pm, with the agreement that if they go a few minutes over, a polite knock on the door would be more appropriate than screaming and children and calling the police.

Sianthomasisnothererightnow · 28/05/2023 17:09

Im really surprised by the police attending this. I have had a noise complaint situation and it’s dealt with through the council. I wonder what your neighbours have actually said to warrant a police visit….

Boytwinmum · 28/05/2023 17:10

kitsuneghost · 28/05/2023 17:01

Is there not a park they can maybe go play in instead. Teenagers playing ball games in a back garden seems really odd unless you have a huge garden.

Yes it's a really big garden. They nip out and play for half an hour- an hour to wear off energy etc. I don't think going to a park is practical every evening, but can certainly think on to stop at one on the way home from their various activities - good thinking thanks!

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toomuchlaundry · 28/05/2023 17:10

Basketball until 10pm would drive me crazy

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