America's Gun Control

@Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 . It's not a sense of entitlement. It literally is enshrined in the law.

Doesn't make it OK/acceptable/ not changeable .

Well it clearly need a few more times doesn't it! Or do u not feel it needs to change? Because ultimately that's the point I've made the whole way through.

The first ten of those when there were only the first 13 states. The ERA still hasn't been ratified. Please read pps on why it's exceptionally hard to amend the constitution.

😬😊 I apologise

As a British person with American citizenship I clearly think the situation is awful. But virtue signaling gets nobody anywhere, though I'm sure it makes you feel good. Going over and over vague suggestions that I and other America-based posters have explained won't work because our system is not the British system and can't miraculously be transformed into the British system is pointless.

Maybe it's the defeatism that is getting up people's noses? "It's difficult so there's no point in trying" doesn't always cut the mustard, at least for some.

After all, Americans (some of them, not in fact a majority; more than three percent of the white population, fewer than twenty percent, black people not counted as not being relevant) did the very difficult thing of throwing the British out of their country. They could have just sat there saying "oh, that's going to be very hard, maybe we shouldn't bother..."

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime - perhaps you think people aren't trying? They are, I assure you, but it's going to take a very long time and when people assume it can be done quickly and simply that is just ludicrous.

I'm not sure who has said it's going to done quickly and simply if anyone. I think the bigger problem Americans face is , not everyone is even wanting to change regardless now long it takes.

The Equal Rights Amendment took fifty years to be ratified (apparently now has been, contrary to an earlier assertion of mine). Met the legal threshold in 1972, finally ratified by the final state - Virginia - in 2020. Gun control will be harder than that.

I wonder how long it takes to pass pieces of Legislation that benefits the politicians? I'm guessing not 50 years + I wonder why that's is.

And it's probably the same in this country too

An amendment to the constitution is not the same as a piece of legislation.

In today's news:

After a guest on his show warned that Trump’s indictment marked a “civil war era” in the U.S., Fox News host Tucker Carlson said Americans should hold onto their assault rifles. “Probably not the best time to give up your AR-15, and I think most people know that,” Carlson said. HuffPost]

'As a British person with American citizenship I clearly think the situation is awful. But virtue signaling gets nobody anywhere,'

Agreed,so perhaps the time for 'thoughts and prayers' is over?

The richest nation on earth, the nation that put humans in the moon and is leading the efforts to send humans to Mars - can’t bring in any kind of gun control because it’s ‘hard’

mmm. Okay. I suppose it comes down to priorities.

They already have forms of gun control, it's illegal for most convicted felons to own guns for example.

Just like it's illegal in the UK to carry a knife ( or anything for that matter) for self defence. Not just for convicted criminals, for everyone except government agents.

So we must have knife crime sorted, yes?

Chicago has some of the strictest guns laws in the USA, so it must be a gun crime free demi paradise. Not the place with some of the highest gun crime in reality?

What " works" here would never work in the US.

@Britinme , thank you for your intelligent thought out factual responses. In fairness, were this a forum aimed at the US market discussing UK firearms laws, you would get just as many ill thought ignorant replies.

‘They already have forms of gun control, it's illegal for most convicted felons to own guns for example.’

wise up.

Any chance you could actually respond to some of the points I have made?

@Nolongera thanks.

@StarmanBobby - your last post gives me a glimmer of hope that you might begin to understand the issues involved. It is indeed illegal for convicted felons to own guns but it's not quite that simple is it?

Can’t argue with stupid, as my southern mawma used to say. Anyone arguing here that the US has effective gun control needs to give their head a good wobble.

Nobody here has argued that. Wobble your own head, and while you're at it read the rest of the constitution and maybe some history.