To think that suncream is just as bad for you as the sun?

[poshsinglemum]

Look at all the chemicals. Shade is the way forard. I will still be using my suncream before you all get judgy.

some articles that may be of interest
www.aolnews.com/health/article/study-many-sunscreens-may-be-accelerating-cancer/19488158

preventdisease.com/news/articles/072007_sunscreen.shtml

preventdisease.com/news/articles/062107_sunscreen.shtml

If you're after one that can work with skin allergies etc - my mum always used P60 I think it's called with my little brother, who had one of the worst cases of childhood eczema his consultant had ever seen and it IS a once a day application jobbie.

Having said that, I personally rarely wear the stuff - despite being very fair-skinned - I hate the feel of it on my skin, most make me itch like crazy, and it's just more hassle than it's worth. If I know I'm going to be outside I'll chuck a hat on and put some on - but generally I don't go loopy and bare every available inch of flesh at the first ray of sunlight (like half this country usually do - seriously guys, stop walking around Tesco sweaty and topless purlease), I can't think of anything more tedious than sunbathing, I hate the heat and would rather stay indoors by an air con unit - haven't been sunburnt in years. I took the hint about a decade ago - I don't tan, I just go red, itchy and blotchy so I don't bother and I make sure I keep my shoulders and back covered up wherever possible anyway.

don't know who writes preventdisease.com, so I'm not sure how accurate that is

Well... I burn very easily, my grandad had severe skin cancer from working outside all year and I have already had a tumour removed from my shoulder (benign but still scary as shit when waiting for results) so I think I'll take my chances on the suncream thanks.

reading the preventdisease.com, some of that looks over the top, treat it with a pinch of salt

at MmeRedWhiteandBlueberry's post.

dihydrogen monoxide is a proven killer of thousands every year!

but freakoid you may be safer covering up than using sunscreen.

emptyshell- ha ha you sound like me.

@ Mme's dihydrogen monoxide. Evil stuff, it is. Has killed more people than a bit of sunburn, that's for sure.

Kills about 400 people a year in the UK alone Jenai!

I think that might be why my DS is so naturally averse to it. It's nature's way.

Impossible to cover up children that insist on being naked though

Saintly I remain convinced I missed my vocation in life as a vampire (not the silly Twilight sort but the cool Lost Boys sort). I hate being out in the sun, hate hate hate it and ikky sticky suncream that never soaks in properly is one of my more vile childhood memories. My poor mum - it was akin to trying to catch a greased pig, trying to wrangle me into position to finish suncream application (makes ya nice and slippery to escape parental clutches though :D )

I've had moles removed as precautionary measures - I just don't have skin that goes well with the sun, so I keep things to a sensible level and cover up (got a lovely snuggly longsleeved white top I live in all summer). We don't holiday abroad because my husband hates the heat more than me, we do stuff outside but I can't imagine anything worse than being out on a stinking hot day for long! (I don't like the cold either - I'm essentially screwed where weather's concerned... quite like the rain tho!)

That P60 stuff's great though - think Boots stock it and it's expensive but you put it on once and it bonds to your skin all day (and doesn't feel like ikky greasy sticky gunk).

oh empty I have spent the last week moaning about HATING the sun. I go blotchy and itchy and red. Then white.

I like the rain as well.

I might try the P60. But we never go abroad or anything either and you'd never find any of us package beach holiday. I am going to invest in some decent clothing for all concerned I think.

I dunno. The sun gives us so much - I feel instant wellbeing the moment the sun comes out, and the feel of sun on my skin is like magic happy therapy.

I have psoriasis, a skin condition which can either be treated with bogging creams that stink and don't work, or sun exposure.

I think we have arrived at a point where we now seem to think that sitting in the sun gives us cancer. Well yes, it will indeed give a few people cancer, though they may not actually sit out in it. But so could many things, and I think you have to find the balance that suits you.

I went to my doc about a dodgy mole once, and he said quite breezily, 'oh, you think it's cancer don't you? Well, it isn't. In my thirty years of practice I've only ever seen two cases of skin cancer'.

Morris, I hope he was right. Even dermatologists can get it wrong - biopsy is the only way to be certain.

In stark contrast to your experience, my best friend went with concern over a skin lesion and it was dismissed as a fungal infection or similar for over a year.

She died 9 months later.

GPs can be wrong about this stuff...especially if they've only ever seen two cases before. Think about it.

littlebabynothing - thanks so much! Hadn't thought of trying Waitrose!

Hi everyone- I DID say that I DO use suncream and not ''natural'' brands. I also drink, used to smoke and I don't eat organic foods so I am not chemical phobia. I don't thin k that sunbathing is great (and tbh bloody boring) but walking around town is no cause for panic. By shade I also meant sunhats etc.
I was at Glastonbury where there was hardly any shade but I wore my sunhat and shades thus shielding me from sun stroke.
I wish I was one of those pale and interesting beauties but I look rough as anything without a bit of colour.

Hi again. Also I've noticed since having dd I tan more easily than hen I went on my dangerous foriegn holiday roastathons.
I am out and about more with the pram and only work part time so I have built up a tan gradually.

I am worried about my skin as I did get burnt in the tropics when younger. I am also pale. I drink lots of green tea which is supposed to be full of free radicals but I expect I am still high risk.

Saintly,

We have something in common because I am obsessed with Vitamin D!!

I've recently been diagnosed with MS and I have now found out I am Vit D deficient. I've posted on another thread but I'll repeat here now what I found out about babies and children the signs of Vit D deficiency

Rickets and SOFT SKULL are signs of Vit D deficiency. My Four year old had severe brachycephaly (flat back of skull) we helmeted him for a while but we started too late.

Late onset of milk teeth is another sign of deficiency. My son didnt get his first tooth until he was one and his canines didnt come through until he was over 2

Respiratory problems and infections is another sign. My son had countless chest infections in his first year and was hospitialised on one occasion.

Late walking is another sign. My son didnt start walking until he was 18 months.

It's all too much of a coincidence in my opinion. I have a theory that I have been dificient for some time and that my son was also deficient from birth.

They say MS is not genetic but it could be that babies are deficient of Vit D if their mothers are deficient and so it goes back through the family line....

I'm getting my son tested next week.

I avoid sunscreens that contain
Titanium Dioxide TiO2
and
Zinc Oxide
that is the clear and cream zincs that disappear into the skin on application.
They contain nano particles, which means that the titanium and zinc particles are so small they pass through the skin and into the body.

I think that you have to be very careful about the ingredients-especially with children. I am wary of putting things on the skin that you wouldn't take through the mouth.They all get in the body. I think they are a necesssary evil, but I would keep a T shirt on a DC rather than strip off and coat with chemicals.

well without suncream i would be housebound in the summer as i have an extreme case of vitiligo., i have no skin pigment whatsover now and a very high risk of skin cancer

Why not use a natural mineral sunscreen....(sorry if stating the obv)

YABU

I have an appt with the mole clinic tomorrow. Not a nice feeling.

I have provided palliative nursing care to a 20 year old with primary melanoma. Never nursed anyone with suncream poisoning.

suncream is a bloody brilliant fantastic invention!!!

it's the only way that i (with my celtic/norse complexion) can get any exercise outdoors in the summer. without it i wouldn't be able to hike or ski or ride my bike or run during the day and picnics or any time outdoors would be impossible.

i have been caught out at late spring or eastertime events without sunscreen before and despite shade hopping as much as humanly possible and draping cardi's on my skin, i still burn.