SHUT THE F**K UUUUUUUUUUP

[Pavlov]

My next door neighbour's son is having an after club party of some kind. The police have said they can't do anything. I am presuming, given the type of music being played and the time of night and the increasing, not decreasing volume that drugs are involved, and as such I am not going to ask for it to be turned down. DH is unwell and is not able to ask either.

2.5 fucking hours.

I want to go and fucking batter him. Instead, when the baby wakes for the morning (luckily I have been able to settle him and DD is asleep in her loft room) at 6am, if he is no longer up I am going to go and hammer on the fucking door. If he is awake I am going to wait til 9am. And then I am playing disney really fucking loudly, ALL DAY.

LOL I swear you'd never have believed it from me, I am such a softy!

In my defence I was hormonal (DD1 was only a baby), I was back in the Navy working a 40 hour week and DH was away at sea. I was bloody exhausted.

I didn't throw the stereo in the pond, I gave it back the next day - but by then I think they had realised I was serious!

sidge good for you! I remember once when I was a student in a shared house, a prick of a housemate (mate? ha!) constantly played the most horrendous music all day and all night. So once, after several days of him partying (he was into drum n bass kind of stuff) I put on Metallica at full volume and went away for the night . Luckily, the other flatmates were away at the time (end of term or something).

I find that a lot of modern music sounds like people fighting followed by a woman screaming.
maybe that's just because I am tired and disorientated, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
(I've never actually tried it, neighbours kids are too young!)

Most people here I've dealt with can kind of guess that I'm a bit unhinged, but I've had my share of fuckwits and their music and it seems like that's my fate in life.

TBH, I just applied for some crap debt collection job with targets because my new sole goal in life is to pay our debts and always have enough money to move (we're lifelong renters) because I've accepted, yep, financially, my life will always be shit, but at least I won't have to stay long listening to other peoples' damn music.

I've also applied for a crap call centre job with the same goal in mind.

I really don't care. I'll work till I drop to rent a place where I don't have to put up with other peoples' fuckwittage.

Because I'm out of patience.

And people who do this really aren't worth going to jail for.

pavlov, that sounds awful! i can totally empathise with sleep deprivation.

its difficult because i wasn't there to hear how loud it was. i am not saying people should do what they like at others expense but some of you sound like you are advocating a total ban on loud music after 11pm. that, IMO, is just too totally killjoy for words! like i said earlier, an ongoing problem is different. but one saturday night where dad's away, the mice will play is not only ok, but healthy!

Haven't time to read all five pages so apologies if it's been said before, but in situations like this I have two words - drug squad. We lived next door to a student house share in Brighton for years. Some of the tenants were absolute poppets, but the ones who partied all night (terraced houses)and wouldn't listen to reason used to get raided on a regular basis after an anonymous tip off about white powder and cash changing hands!

PAvlov, so sorry you had to put up with this shite - have been there but without the DC to cope with as well - but our EHO did work on a Saturday night. He came out, not to my house but to a different one (lots of us complained) - sadly, the party was at the foot of my (very short) garden so I was copping it the worst. Couldn't go to sleep because the bloody bed was vibrating! And the exit from the party was alongside my house so even when the music stopped, I still had the noise of all the drunken yoof leaving. Finished about 5am.

The police were useless, yes; the EHO was less useless AND they came to see me on the Monday to register my formal complaint and get details. I took him up to my bathroom window and showed him how bloody close the party venue was - he was shocked! A noise restraint order (can't remember the proper name for it) was issued against the party holder. So worth phoning the council even after the event (although next time, if there is a next time, the police should put you through to the EHO On call)

Count me in to sign that petition.

We had our neighbours, grown adults in their fifties, doing charades in the garden at 1.30am the other night.

Loudly.

Slamming our bedroom windows shut didn't drop any hints either.

Fuckers.

BBM, sometimes subtlely can work, slamming windows is not effective IME. We live in Switzerland and have enforcable noise rules. None before 7 between 12 and 14.00 and none after 22.00 or on a Sunday or Holy day. On Saturday night, I put dd to bed about 8 and she got up again around 8.30 to tell me she couldn't sleep because of the people at the side of us talking on their balcony. I put her back to bed about 9 and she dropped off. I went to bed at 11 myself and the people were still talking and laughing, I couldn't sleep so shsshed them out of the window. It went quiet for about 3 minutes then they started again. I had to get dressed and go downstairs then upstairs to ask them to keep it down. The woman told me (in a very pissed way) that they hadn't realised they were so loud. I went back to bed and they started. AGAIN. This time I stuck my head out of my bedroom window and asked them politely to go inside or I would call the police. I never heard them again that night and she apologised yesterday when I saw her.

I remember ringing police once as a rave was going on nearby and it was so noisey and loads of thast MCing crap. Terrible. The police wouldnt come out and told us the ring envirnomental health noise department. We rang, they shut at 10pm
I dont mind loud music during the day or even early evening but if anyione messes with my sleep

'you sound like you are advocating a total ban on loud music after 11pm. that, IMO, is just too totally killjoy for words!'

Count me in on that petition, Riven.

Because someone else's 'joy' ruins peoples' lives.

Not to metion, sleep deprivation is downright dangerous for some peoples' jobs.

There is NEVER a reason for loud music after 11 unless you are running a nightclub or pub.

None.

ruby I am not a scrooge, and I completely agree with the whole 'while the cats away' philosophy, but just do not see why that means the music cannot be turned down to a sociable level after a certain time. I do not see why me wanting to sleep, and wanting my baby to sleep and my unwell husband to sleep has to be compromised so that a boy can have some fun. I just do not get that. I really do not. fun does not have to equal loud.

And what about those who have to do something that involves being responsible for the lives of others, or themselves the next day after the random one off night of fun? As some one else said, a bus driver, or a nurse, or a doctor, someone who will use dangerous machinery, drive a car for example. Should they call in unable to work? or continue with their day? But that is ok though isn't it? As long as the boy enjoys himself and spreads his wings a bit? No, it is not ok. It is not unreasonable to expect some give and take when you share an environment with other people.

I am prepared to let slide music til midnight, even 1am, as a one off. NOT almost 5am.

Ruby, when someone blasts music after 11, they're showing they don't give a flying fuck about their neighbours.

Well, then, I don't give a flying fuck about their good time.

ALL loud music should be banned after 11PM and it should be a criminal offense, IMO.

"ruby I am not a scrooge, and I completely agree with the whole 'while the cats away' philosophy, but just do not see why that means the music cannot be turned down to a sociable level after a certain time. I do not see why me wanting to sleep, and wanting my baby to sleep and my unwell husband to sleep has to be compromised so that a boy can have some fun. I just do not get that. I really do not. fun does not have to equal loud."

i agree with you that in a perfect world, noone would ever be disturbed. and i agree that fun doesn't have to equal loud. but i stand by my position that if this was a once off, there is probably no major harm done. i am not talking about a persistent menace.

and for those refusing to budge off the 11pm thing - what about new year? shall we lock people up for partying beyond 11pm? ridjculous. you sound like you need a good all-nighter some of you!

ruby did you read the bit about my DD almost drowning? So, no harm done, but lack of sleep, poor judgment etc could have been different. Should I only complain if it had been a tragedy?

It's all about the knock on affect and if music or noise is that loud you can hear it word for word as if you had it on mega volume on your own house then that is poor.

I cannot imagine lying there awake thinking, "ah bless them having a good time"

Thing is I think a lot of people these days are unable to think about how anything can affect others.......I'm alright Jack eh?

ok riven - i didn't mean to be patronising - i am just taking the piss a bit as some of you sound really 'dry' with your no music after 11pm idea - sorry. also i am unaware of your personal circumstances and tbh i am not sure they are relevant to this thread. i am simply saying that in this particular situation, there was most likely no harm done, and imo people are allowed to have the odd all night party.

pavlov, i did read about your DD. and i am sorry you had such a situation to contend with. she didn't drown though, again i don't know the details, but presumably because you managed to save the situation.

no one has addressed the new year issue. so no house parties with loud music after 11pm at new year then?

pavlov, i have just reread a post of yours about doctors etc and i agree that it is necessary for people to sleep. are ear plugs a possibility for those people. it is saturday night we are talking about. not every night / any night. so sunday the next day - yes some people need to work. so get some ear plugs.

fwiw, i agree that listening to someone else's banging techno when you are trying to sleep is awful, and in an ideal world, people would take the edge off it/turn the base down after an unsociable hour. but this is not 11pm and this was a one off where silly twit son from next door made a selfish decision to have an all night party. imo it is really no big issue. life goes on.

Why do you need loud blaring music at New Year?

Why not go to a pub or club for it or, if you can't, um, don't have loud, blaring music or bass.

'are ear plugs a possibility for those people.'

They do nothing for thudding bass.

Pav, I hope you tell the dad.

I mean, he didn't give a toss about your life, or your daughter's, why should you care about his good time?

i agree tell the dad, why not...

ok so in your world, no one would have an all night house party. not even at new year. not even once a year, or once every three years. no, never ever. not even for someone's 21st birthday, or anniversary. once in a lifetime, even. just a blanket ban.

i think little gadgets that could measure decibels might work.

someone would have to police it though.

i don't know the solution.

i hope you are ok pavlov, and i hope your dd is not too freaked out from her day yesterday.

'ok so in your world, no one would have an all night house party. not even at new year. not even once a year, or once every three years. no, never ever. not even for someone's 21st birthday, or anniversary. once in a lifetime, even. just a blanket ban. '

No, not one that involves loud music.

Because it is selfish and rude and could be life-threatening for people in certain jobs.

When you blast loud music all night, you're basically giving everyone around you to go to fuck and demonstrating that you're a selfish twat.

So why on Earth do you expect people to give a toss about your 21st, anniversary, etc.?

Want to hear loud music, go to a club.

But on New Years eve most people are celebrating in some way. Thats totally different to a thoughtless teenage boy playing blasting 'music' through til the next day.

But, again, there's no reason to have music blasting at a New Year party right through til 5am. Most people I know who have NY parties at home would maybe go til about 1.30-2 with the music then things calm down and people end up chatting or going home. But they would all speak to their neighbours first, its not much to ask. Manners infact.