SHUT THE F**K UUUUUUUUUUP

[Pavlov]

My next door neighbour's son is having an after club party of some kind. The police have said they can't do anything. I am presuming, given the type of music being played and the time of night and the increasing, not decreasing volume that drugs are involved, and as such I am not going to ask for it to be turned down. DH is unwell and is not able to ask either.

2.5 fucking hours.

I want to go and fucking batter him. Instead, when the baby wakes for the morning (luckily I have been able to settle him and DD is asleep in her loft room) at 6am, if he is no longer up I am going to go and hammer on the fucking door. If he is awake I am going to wait til 9am. And then I am playing disney really fucking loudly, ALL DAY.

CHUUUG ington chuggy chuggy chuggy
that will drive him mad

If you can go out, put this on repeat first. Just what someone in a fragile state will want to hear ;)

we used to get environental health round to our parties at uni. you have my sympathies but in the grand scheme of things, they are young, they like to party, live and let live. definitely play disney music, do DIY although i am sorry to say it probably won't bother them that much they will be so comatose from last night's shenanigans!

and the turning up with a bottle of gin idea would have been brilliant! if not to stop the party but just to be hilarious. they probably would have loved it - we would have found that priceless and it would have added to the stories the next day!

also they are not necessarily taking drugs. vodka redbull etc etc

You got the karaoke out yet Pavlov!?

I would, and let DD sing with her very best singing voice, all day. And make sure she gets to chose the songs!

You should have called the police about the drugs, you wouldn't have to give them your name, his dad would never know it was you!

miggsie
believe me, social services are aware that middle class people can abuse their children
If you suspect abuse, report it, please. Evil happens when good people do nothing.

Of course SSD know this- I used to work for an allied charity and half my SSD referred workload was middle class. Why wouldn't it be? Beleiving abuse only happens in poor famillies / council estates perpetates some dangerous myths.

Am I the only one thinking that, as it only happens VERY occasionally, Pav should let it lie? I, up until 4 years ago (DS1!) would be partying till 4am on a regularly basis at different friend's houses - WITHOUT the aid of drugs. p.s. I'm 40 now!

I feel for you, my neighbour (3 young 2oish siblings) like to have a party most saturday nights. Thankfully they don't last too long as there is nearly always a fight about midnight and it gets broken up and the idiots go home.
when I had DC3 they used to knock and let me know there was a party and if it got too much they would turn it down but now they just open all the windows and crank it up. Last time we heard Journeys Don't stop believing being massacred on the Karaoke and then Dragonforce on Guitar Hero.
If you know his Dad then have a word. Sleep is precious when you have kids and some consideration would be nice.

Hope you get some sleep tonight

What did you do Pavlov?

We had this once with a young Dad that lived next door. After going out with his mates, he came home (alone) and started singing Queen songs very loudly. He didn't answer the door when DH banged knocked, but it was okay because I sang Bohemian Rhapsody to myself whenever I saw him and watched the sod cringe

DIY for sure. Drill some holes. Hoover the house, now! Do you have any nursery rhyme CDs? You could always put them on loud and go out. I maintain that if you live in a flat or share a wall, you have your parties at the pub. It's just good manners. I am all for loud music, drugs and mayhem, but not forcing it on your neighbours. Sad that housing is so high density in this country, causes a lot of aggrivation IMHO.

Thanks a right lot stealthpolarbear, I now have that particular earworm for the rest of the day!

When my neighbour started having post club parties every Saturday night I started hoovering early on Sunday morning. The area that really needed hoovering was my bedroom next to the party wall where his bed is.

If this was very occasionally, you had been pre-warned and you had been told roughly how late it would go on till - which would not have been almost 5am - and could have braced yourself, I would say let it lie. But that isn't what happened and you have small children and an ill husband. I'd be telling his father and based on your previous experience, his son may not be having any more parties for a while.

Unfortunately, the Police do not have any power to make them turn the music down. They can turn up but if the occupant will not answer the door then they have no power of entry.
The environmental health or council can only enter and seize equipment with a warrant. To get a warrant they must have evidence of continual noise pollution at unreasonable hours.
Sadly, it's the law that is wrong.

we used to rent a house "in the country" ut on a reasonably main/usy road in the country.

Opposite us and rather low down from the main road (very low down actually) was a detached house, very big very rich. They had 2 parties whilst we were there and one teenage alone party - because of how their house was, it basically had an ampitheatre effect and we could hear everything word fro word and they had a microphone and we could hear all of that too. It was bloomin awful and sleep was extremely precious to us at that time so you have my sympathies. The first proper party was at least music we liked but the teenage party was horrific, really hurt your brain!

Have you been round yet Pavlov?

I think it needs to be a Wagner opera or two you play all the way through - or just put Classic FM on really, really loudly next to the wall.

Hope you all get much more sleep tonight!

Miggsie - We all have a responsibility to prevent childtren being abused. please dont casually ignore a child being abused. Social services, contrary to media belief are not inept, and will generally take your concerns seriously, no matter how expensive their wallpaper. I really cant believe the casual excuses you give, justifying turning a blind eye to this. This sort of attitude is why a lot of children are abused for a long time. The next time you hear this poor child being abused, or see his sad face, remember you could be doing something about it, but chose not to.

Sorry for hijack!

Pavlov - get the kids outside for a high energy playing screaming session. Nothing like loud kiddie noises for a hangover, I for one, would know . And tell his father.

Hiya, im not sure where you live but in most areas you can ring the environmental health team at any time of the day and night and they will send people round to sort out the noise problem, if they continue to ignore it they have the power to seize their stereo. i would have rung them anyway if i was you they would have prob been there. i have had to do this myself on more than one occasion.

For 9 months I had to live next to this nutcase woman who lived like she was feral and played Bonnie Tyler's 'Bright Eyes' at 5am EVERY morning, and would continue to play it for hours on end. Not mega loud but just loud enough to wake us up and keep us awake. Tried banging on the wall/shouting at her/sending ex DP who had quite a scary appearance round, to no avail. In the end, we made a CD just for her of stuff she would fucking HATE, really horrible dance music with proper offensive basslines, turn the speakers towards the wall on her side and play it at top volume every time we went out. She never went out anywhere so I hope she enjoyed it as much as we liked Bonnie. She still didn't stop though. We moved.

No, YANBU, but, I can't help wondering what sort of noise your neighbours may hear what your DCs wake up early on a daily basis? There was a thread on here a couple of weeks back about a neighbour getting p!$$£d off with the MNer because the children were waking early and playing noisily which was disturbing the neighbour everyday. The general consensus IIRC, was that the neighbour was being unreasonable because children make noise!
If this is happening regularly, I would do something about it, but if it is a rare or occasional occurrence, I might mention it in passing but would probably let it go. After all, i am sure that there are times when your DCs have/will be making noise at a time that is not 'suitable' for your neighbours.

Jendaisy... I heard about the Bonnie Tyler woman. Did this nutjob happen to live in Hampstead?

Why did you not go and ask them to turn the music down last night? If you had, and they had refused/ignored you, I think you would be quite entitled to feel very pissed off and take things further.

The party people may well have been selfish in giving no thought to how much it was impacting on the neighbours, but as no-one told them,may have assumed you were ok with it.

Oh, and the police arent being useless or lazy as some here have posted. They dont have the powers to deal with situations like this, and to be fair are likley to have more important criminal matters to cope with on a saturday night.

i echo everyone else who says let it lie.

if it was every w/end then yeah get council, noise police etc involved.

think yourself lucky it is only once in a while and not every night / weekend as some poor neighbours around britain have to endure.

anti-social behaviour is unacceptable no matter how often or rarely it occurs. Children playing is not anti-social behaviour. I'm stunned that anyone can compare the two.

Why don't you have a chat with your other neighbours? They must have been disturbed too, then ask his dad if it was his son's birthday and how long he's been seeing his gf? May just embarrass lad into more reasonable behaviour (5am is far from it) and being a bit more discreet in the bedroom...Hope you get some sleep today!