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Original poster

to think that all nurseries are stuffed and bulging with rampant paedophiles and murderers?

349 replies

Hullygully · 26/05/2010 12:52

Or not?

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TheShriekingHarpy · 26/05/2010 16:28

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BritFish · 26/05/2010 16:28

backtotalkaboutthis:
Peadophiles are despicable excuses for human beings. as are Nazis. imo taking the piss is the least of the abuse they deserve.
your example is obviously offensive because...sigh, i cant even be bothered to explain that. are you seriously saying that taking the piss out of child abusers is wrong?

Runaway Wife, your DS is my hero. did he really say that? i wish i was that articulate at 13!

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 26/05/2010 16:31

Oi! I'm an essex girl! Although now I live in the midlands, I tend to refer to myself as being from east London.

BitOfFun · 26/05/2010 16:32

Hully, you are being harangued now- sorry, bullied. Just ask for the thread to be pulled- HQ are very ameniable about that these days.

BritFish · 26/05/2010 16:34

oh Essex girls fair game definately
in my family, gingers are fair game. as are old people [read: me and DH] and DH's inability to grow any important facial hair.

backtotalkaboutthis · 26/05/2010 16:35

so not everything is funny?

this isn't taking the piss out of child abusers britfish

it's taking the piss out of people who fear child abusers

so you think taking the piss out of people, in fact here a specific person, who fears child abusers is funny, because that's what this thread is about

I must admit I was obviously wrong when I said it wasn't difficult to understand

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 26/05/2010 16:36
BritFish · 26/05/2010 16:36

Chickenshavenoeyebrows:
i live in the midlands and someone called me a northerner the other day. i flogged them as bad as this horse.
Midlandser is a proper desciption, honest

RunawayWife · 26/05/2010 16:36

Britfish yep he really said it.
He has a smart mouth quick wit about him no Idea who he gets his sarcasm ideas from.

He is in the bad books at the moment though as he had a run in with a teacher at school long story.... she is a stand in, the first time he was in her lesson he was ticking (he has tourettes) she told him to stop making silly noises he said he was sorry, told her about the tourettes, she called him a lire and sent him out of class, the senco pulled her up on it in front of the class and so she and DS1 are not exactly friends....anyhow yesterday he had some problems in class with kids tipping water on him and and this teacher was ignoring it till DS1 lashed out, anyway she would not listen to anything DS1 had to say so he turned to her and said.....

Shall I speak in a language you might better understand? Moooooooooo

So he is banned from playstation and has had pocket money stopped

BitOfFun · 26/05/2010 16:38

Blimey

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 26/05/2010 16:38

I know it's not helpful RunawayWife, but that made me laugh

BritFish · 26/05/2010 16:39

i think taking the piss out of people who fear child abusers are hidden in every man nursery or bush is okay! because its irrational hysteria! the OP wasnt actually concerned about child abuse, she had her own issues to do strangers caring for her child i believe was consensus?
taking the piss out of someone who has a REAL, JUSTIFIED fear that a person near their child is of course not appropriate! i never said it was!

BritFish · 26/05/2010 16:42

Runaway Wife, again not helpful, but your DS is now my hero even more. why was she ignoring them winding him up? grrr. sounds like she thinks your DS is a 'troublemaker' agree with him, mooooooooooooooo

RunawayWife · 26/05/2010 16:44

I think we all do what we feel best for our children and it is not the same for everyone.

Yes there are pedophiles out there, yes I am sure that some of them make sure they get in to positions where they have access to children, but not every man who works with children is a sex offender.

A healthy balance needs to be struck between common sense and being careful and being dragged in to the scare mongering

AgentZigzag · 26/05/2010 16:44

Britfish, my heart sinks when I hear Frankie Boyle (who I think is usually geniusly funny) make jokes about children being abused.

Hitler is fine to make jokes about it helps us to come to terms with what he did. He was one person who is also now dead, he was the very visible head of a sinister political party who made the killing of millions of people into a social policy.

Paedophiles on the other hand are hidden in our own society, they look and act like everyone else. They could be family friends, brothers, uncles, mothers and just recently they've been proved to be nursery workers. They're the enemy within. Who can blame anyone for wondering about the people who come in contact with their children? Not me.

Making jokes about the understandable panic (that's been amplified by the press, and kind of rightly) parents feel when they trust other people with their children isn't funny to a lot of people. If you take offense at other people not finding it funny, perhaps it's time to turn off your computer.

BritFish · 26/05/2010 17:01

Agent ZigZag, that is of course your opinion which you are entitled to, on this matter can we agree to disagree? i dont take actual offense to people who dont see the funny side, as that is to do with their own sense of humour which is a very personal thing in itself! im not going to condemn people for not finding something funny.
as ive already stated however, i would never mock someone who had a genuine, justified fear that their child was being abused by a specific person.
however, people who think that every man out there should be treated with the utmost suspicion i have no time for and deserved to be mocked, as if we're going to be tricky, i find people behaving as if men shouldnt be trusted with care work very offensive, and damaging to our society and our children. [which was not the case on the original thread]
i hope that explains myself?

Booboobedoo · 26/05/2010 17:03

AgentZigzag, whilst I like the cut of yer jib and think you talk sense, I disagree with you about the media being justifiable in purposely whipping up public hysteria about paedophilia.

'Hitler is fine to make jokes about it helps us to come to terms with what he did'. Ditto people who abuse kids imo. Demystify them. Shine the spotlight.

Humour is one of many tools we have to achieve this.

Anyway, as has been laboriously pointed out, this thread was clearly intended to (pretty gently) poke fun at the 'paedophile-behind-every-lampost' mentality.

I can see this thread isn't to everyone's taste, but it made me laugh.

Original poster
Hullygully · 26/05/2010 17:11

For the last time (if only). It is a thread about hysterical reactions.

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Hullygully · 26/05/2010 17:11

I AM being bullied, BoF. I wouldn't mind if it was at least for the right bleedin reasons.

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ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 26/05/2010 17:12

You have a bush obsession, Hully. I really think you should avoid shrubbery for a while. Perhaps stick to herbacious borders.

AgentZigzag · 26/05/2010 17:14

I can understand where you come from Brit and Boo, but it's only a tiny jump from being sensibly aware of the people surrounding your child, to seeing a paedophile in everyone you see. It's in many parents bio makeup to be on the verge of constant paranoia about their own child.

With regards to the media, they've done a good job in making people aware and bringing the manipulative, secretive deviancy of sex offenders out of the shadows, and also of showing that there is no shame in talking about it.

What happens when parental imagination and the way the press talks about it combines, is always going to be explosive.

I feel pity and compassion for anyone who is having to constantly think about paedophiles in relation to their own children, whatever the reason for that. Ridicule just seems inappropriate in this instance.

pagwatch · 26/05/2010 17:16

Having no horse to flog I feel left out.

But the demystification thing is exactly how I feel.
Of course there are jokes about child abuse that would be hideous. But it is possible to laugh a la Chris Morris at the way society has chosen, via the Sun etc, to create a mac wearing 'paedo' behind every tree.

And THAT is dangerous and foolish. People think that if you create a safe enviroemnt then your child will be safe. And they do so from the position of having no earthly idea what is safe. Because we don't talk about it sensibly. We talk about it with an air of panic.
It always strikes me as odd that I am one of few people who will talk about my abuse because I have chosen not to be ashamed of it. Yet on all the threads where I turn up parents who fear paedophiles to an extent that it affects what their children do, never ask me anything.I know my experience is only mine but you would think I could be of some use.
If only to pass on that when we make this subject the devil of all topics, the unspoken horror then children will not speak. As it was I didn't speak because it felt as if the world would fall in.
Its odd.

And I would rather laugh at that because the alternative is weeping

RunawayWife · 26/05/2010 17:16

Packs bag and leaves thread as it is too scary with bushes, dead bodies, and eyebrow less chickens flogged horses.

Hides behind sofa biting nails

pagwatch · 26/05/2010 17:18
Booboobedoo · 26/05/2010 17:19

But there could be anything behind that sofa, RunawayWife.

ANYTHING!!!!