To expect the Doctor to respect my wishes?

[loumum3]

I have not vaccinated my youngest child. I have done this after much research and made an informed decision. The Doctor's surgery has phoned me several times now and written requesting I go in for a discussion about this. I haven't got time for a visit to discuss this, nor do I want to so I said if I had to, I could talk about it on the phone....I have had the Doctor on the phone this afternoon grilling me about my choices, really trying to scare me into having the jabs done and trying to make me feel bad. She cannot see my point of view at all and has been very rude.

Is is really too much to expect a Doctor to respect the decisions I make about my own children ?

Has anyone else experienced this ?

cleggover, that's good to know. I (of course) wouldn't accept millions to not vaccinate my own. I really don't think people's choices are driven by money on this one. I guess we'll continue to trust different studies to one another.

ELECTRA

Hmmmm, Doctor Who, a documentary eh???
{grin}

And, how many anti vaxxers are double posting under several identities????

Some posters sound the same, despite having different names.

Please check out Bad Science forum. The Dr Myhill thread is dying down now. I'm too drunk to argue sensibly but the chaps and chapesses there could guide you to sensible research.

I really can't believe people >>>Still

My father had polio as a teenager, just after the war.

He survivedafter a year in hospitalbut his life has been blighted. He never went to university, though he was at grammar school and very bright. No national service. No sports except for gentle golf and swimming.

As soon as he hit his seventies he found it very hard to keep mobile because his muscles and bones have been so badly affected by polio.

It's a life-long illness. You never really recover.

Think long and hard before you decide not to have the polio vaccine. I feel so strongly about this that I let one of my children take part in a drugs trial for a new polio vaccine, the non-live version. She is so lucky to be living in an age when this awful disease can be prevented.

I think if children aren't vacinated they shouldn't be allowed to attend state schools as they are putting all the younger siblings who are there at pick up and drop off at risk, its just not fair. The arguments that they make about well why do you care if your children are vacinnated don't hold for my baby do they?

A mum I know who chose not to vacinate her children rapidly got them all vaccinated once she found out she couldn't emigrate to Canada without them - so perhaps some people do it as it seems to be the trendy thing to do or follow the herd rather than basing it on sound evidence.

Catrinm - if you are accusing me of trolling may I politely point put that I am quite capable of arguing my point without hiding behind several identities.

You on the other hand don't seem to be able to argue yours without insulting me by suggesting I'm a troll. How pathetic. At least come up with some sensible perspectives to support you pov.

'I really can't believe people >>>Still

I lived in The People's Republic of Boulder for years.

LOVED IT!

Great veggie restaurants, loads of free and great opportunities for exercise and fresh air, plenty of liberals.

My kind of place .

'The USA admited that part of the reasoning behind CP vaccine is an economic one (in a family with 2 or 3 children where CP occurs at 2 weekly intervals that can mean 6 weeks off work)'

Yes, in a place where there is little to no paid off for most and very limited welfare, 6 weeks off work for anything could be putting your job in very serious jeopardy for many.

And then you carry healthcare insurance through your job, too.

Not good.

SOOTY I think it is appalling that some children are not immunised and then go to nursery.

I do not think that compulsory vaccination is correct in all cases, some people are unable to be immunised, they may have other factors that medically prevent them from having immunisations.

I do not follow your chicken pox example but yes when I have travelled overseas I have gone to the doctor and discussed where I am going and asked for the appropriate shots.

Surely the reason for polio and rubella now being so rare is because of immunisation. There is an argument here about social morality. Fortunately we do not live in a society where our children get polio, you surely would not wish the suffering that Abride outlined in respect of her father on anyone?

Oh and I do not buy the conspiracy theory about the WHO either, do not take the word of the WHO - no, go around and speak to the generation that remember polio.

Oh and Expat - glad you enjoyed Boulder, got to say their record on whooping cough is not great.

I didn't really think about that when there, pink, not having had children.

And I'm sure all that marijuana smoke I blew into the air didn't help .

Sooty - yes I have been brought up in a country where the childhood vaccination schedule is different from the UK.

I am aware that if I go and live in Australia, for example, that I will need to prove the immunisation history.

I simply do not understand what you are trying to say, what have my answers got to do with the price of fish?

....and anyway going to the op - she will only get away with this because the majority of other people WILL be immunised. We are all inter-dependent.

You still are not being clear. Why would I divulge to you my travels?

Are are trying to entrap me into trying to prove your view point??? Do you feel good about it??

Obviously I do not believe that a disease can ONLY be passed if you are LIVING somewhere, rather than TRAVELLING but it depends. For example if I am going to live in a township then yes I get immunised for hep B etc, but if I am going to stay at the White House then I probably will not - it will depend upon the latest medical advice.

But what are you trying to say ? for example parts of London are part of a high
risk area for TB and it is reccommended in our area to get immunised and not in others? So, they review the number of cases and go from there.

I do not recall that I have ever said that vaccination should be compulsory.

There is NO evidence of harm from vaccination. I am absolutely shocked that you have not given your child any vaccinations. Not tetanus? Not polio? Not diphtheria?

Did you know that the majority of soil samples will contain Clostridium tetanii? Tetanus is a lethal illness and a horrible way to die.

Your doctor should not be rude, however this is a genuine child welfare issue.

"There is NO evidence of harm from vaccination."

Well that's just a ridiculous lie that not even the manufacturers would be brave enough to put out there.

Sorry Jaybird but why do you think there's a vaccine damage compensation scheme? Are you for real?

I'm getting quite fond of the "irresponsible" argument.

I'm guessing people must believe that the vaccines do work but only so long as one doesn't come into contact with any infectious people.

or perhaps they are thinking of those who are too young to be vaccinated? The infants that died in an outbreak of measles in Dublin were too young for the MMR.
I'm sure their parents think you are hilarious.