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To expect the Doctor to respect my wishes?

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loumum3 · 20/05/2010 18:45

I have not vaccinated my youngest child. I have done this after much research and made an informed decision. The Doctor's surgery has phoned me several times now and written requesting I go in for a discussion about this. I haven't got time for a visit to discuss this, nor do I want to so I said if I had to, I could talk about it on the phone....I have had the Doctor on the phone this afternoon grilling me about my choices, really trying to scare me into having the jabs done and trying to make me feel bad. She cannot see my point of view at all and has been very rude.

Is is really too much to expect a Doctor to respect the decisions I make about my own children ?

Has anyone else experienced this ?

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ArthurPewty · 22/05/2010 20:41

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electra · 22/05/2010 20:42

Baileys - from the research I have done it's a complex issue. From a government perspective, it is easier to apply a blanket policy than to consider that that might not be the best thing for all individuals.

My view is that vaccines have some effect upon disease control but that it is unclear how much of an effect that is and that the benefits are overplayed while the risks are significantly underplayed.

There is no doubt that the companies who produce these vaccines do stand to make a massive profit from it. It is just unfortunate that this becomes a clear conflict of interest. This kind of thing happens a lot within the context of healthcare situations - Bounty people being allowed into hospitals, anyone???? My ex-H saw in his line of work how representatives from companies like Glaxo-smith cline came into the hospital pharmacy and used a range of bribes selling techniques to convince the hospital to purchase that drug including treating them to expensive meals.

For a health official, the most important thing on their agenda will be a general reduction in the incidence of a disease - fair enough but they fail to consider the other side of the coin - ie - possible damage that may arise in some cases.

The Bride - that post to tokenfemale was nasty and callous - you should be ashamed of yourself.

Sooty7 · 22/05/2010 20:44

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Baileysismyfriend · 22/05/2010 20:50

How do you find out all this information and know thats its accurate?

Again, not trying to be diffucult am genuninely interested..

Sooty7 · 22/05/2010 20:53

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pinkfizzle · 22/05/2010 20:54

According to the World Health Organization, vaccination sits alongside clean water as the public health measure that's had the biggest positive impact on the world's health.

Why? Perhaps, just perhaps it is because vaccination saves lives.

Baileysismyfriend · 22/05/2010 21:01

I know I could google it but I dont believe everything I read on the internet...

I think Ill go with what WHO has to say TBH they know a hell of a lot more than me and alot of people on this thread.

ArthurPewty · 22/05/2010 21:03

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pinkfizzle · 22/05/2010 21:05

another very interesting article... a quote follows...

Those who choose not to vaccinate their children are not only free-riding, but are also putting others at risk. Those who wish to live in a fair and equitable society should recognise that compulsory vaccination shares the risks and benefits of immunisation equally among the population.

ArthurPewty · 22/05/2010 21:06

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Cleggover · 22/05/2010 21:08

the WHO is dominated by big pharma and will promote their agendas. For the truth you need to do your own research. Sooty's right, it is all out there, even respected medical journals, highly scientific and accurate studies, they're all there. Our government ignores all this science and approves and uses vaccines that have been banned in other countries. What Leonie said sums it up very well. I have worked alongside top medics who refuse to vaccinate their own children.
Heck what does the government care about collateral damage of child death, seizures, autism (1 in 50 kids)- the cost of this is next to nothing compared to the money and lobbying from pharmaceutical companies

pinkfizzle · 22/05/2010 21:13

LeonieDelt but if you leave the U without your children being vaccinated you may find not many countries actually want you??

pinkfizzle · 22/05/2010 21:15

oops meant if you leave the Uk... [pc issues]

ArthurPewty · 22/05/2010 21:15

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Cleggover · 22/05/2010 21:18

Leonie I'll come with you!
here's a short film US based

pink, even you are admitting there is a risk- why would any parent knowingly risk that?

here's a thought '..'Spend at least as much time researching vaccination as you would researching the new car you want to buy.' Our children deserve at least that much'

lou031205 · 22/05/2010 21:20

I am pro vaccine.

As Pagwatch has left this thread, I hope she doesn't mind me recalling that on another thread she said that she has video evidence, which her GP has seen, of her DS's 'normal' behaviour prior to vaccination with the MMR. So in her case, there is no mis-remembering of the regression.

Sooty7 · 22/05/2010 21:21

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HappySeven · 22/05/2010 21:25

But Cleggover you could say the same about the risk of not vaccinating. Do you think there is no risk involved in not vaccinating?

pinkfizzle · 22/05/2010 21:26

Leonie well good for you, and stay away from Boulder.

Ofcourse I understand that their are risks with vaccines, but you need to undertake a balanced approach.

Cleggover · 22/05/2010 21:30

I think you need to weigh it up in your own environment and after reading research. I certainly believe vaccines are the much greater risk, yes.

Cleggover · 22/05/2010 21:32

Anyway I really am off now. I do agree re Boulder

Cleggover · 22/05/2010 21:39

PS
The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true.- Albert Einstein. Sooty, Leonie, electra- are all correct.
happyseven, even if you offered me financial incentives to the tune of a euromillions win, I would not vaccinate my children.

ArthurPewty · 22/05/2010 21:40

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lowenergylightbulb · 22/05/2010 21:44

"the WHO is dominated by big pharma and will promote their agenda"

So... people will stop trotting out the WHO guidelines about weaning and breast feeding then? Or is it ok to cherry pick WHO guidelines?

One of my mothers childhood friends died in the 50's after contracting whooping cough. I have an uncle who is still being looked after by his parents as a result of complications arising from measles.

As has been reiterated over and over again on this thread non-vaxxers only have the luxury of their misguided choice because of the success of the vaccine programme.

paisleyleaf · 22/05/2010 21:45

I really dislike that Halvorsen bloke from the singles jabs clinic, with his making money from scaremongering and taking thousands of pounds of legal aid money.

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