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AIBU to hate people who pronounce Chile "Chil-AY" and Kenya "KEEENyar"

152 replies

ipanemagirl · 19/05/2010 23:35

you know, I just don't care if it's right it just sounds dreadful and a great trumpeting of Arse.

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SpringHeeledJack · 20/05/2010 14:23

I say Neeeccharrrrragwaah!

I have been there, though, so am allowed. Nay, compelled

Interestingly same law does not apply to some twat I used to know who went to Guatemala and came back pronouncing it with an american accent ie Gwaddamaler.

everyone knows is cchhhWATteMAlla. ffs

BarmyArmy · 20/05/2010 16:17

Bless.

LadyBiscuit · 20/05/2010 17:17

scaryteacher - my family and I still use a mix of flemish, french and english when we talk although most of us have lived in the UK for about 20 years now. You can't beat the flemish word for snow

LadyBiscuit · 20/05/2010 17:20

Obviously when we speak to one another. Not to the outside world, that would be a bit tragic

BoysAreLikeDogs · 20/05/2010 17:54

hah hah SHJ, we were in Deep Sea world in North Queensferry looking at piranhas and the bloke was on about the piran-haw-waaas from Neeeccharrrrragwaah

V V funny in a Fife accent

ipanemagirl · 21/05/2010 10:45

As OP may I just say for a moment, I don't think it 's just about being correct in pronunciation, it's also about the twat factor or pretentions/delusions of superiority showing off about one's well-travelledness

Major rule is people from the original country or of that nationality or children of those do not sound Twatty usually

1] Kenya
eg when Posh old colonial types say KEEEENYAR it's a snootyism, I know because I'm considerably superior to you (or YOW).
"ken-ya" to me sounds unpretentious.

2] PAREEEE
No excuse for this unless you're French or saying 'Gay Paree'

3] Melay for melee
Not twatty imho

4] CHIL - AY
Fine for Chileans. Chilly = fine for most people, it's the trad way for the English to pronounce it. It may be wrong but it passes the twat test.
Chil - e (e as in elephant) is also fine and not twatty imho. But it can be if it leads to facial distortion and chin jutting. Bil has been to CHILE (he is so full of himself...) and can't say CHIL-LE without facial spasm. It's wrong. One should relax and sound calm. Pronunciation should not start to look like Torette's syndrome.

5] NiGRAW AW AW AW AW
is wonderful and should be said by everyone out of respect for the noble people of Nicaragua, one should ideally pretend to be Benecio del Toro when delivering Nicaragua

6] Lapsing into French and Latin
ok for Boris (can't help it) fine for scary teacher all poly glots imo can pronounce how they like.
Not ok for that old bloke in the Archers because it's snooty.
I don't like the use of pronuncation to be snooty that's all.

7] Choriztzo, I have no confidence about that. I try not to say it at all

8] PAR ME JANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Americans also say Parmesan like this, this is entirely unforgiveable and is the worst of all possible worlds, my step mother says this and it makes me weep

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LadyBiscuit · 21/05/2010 20:17

I think we should all try and get NiGRAW AW AW AW AW into our conversations this weekend and assess reactions and report back

ipanemagirl · 21/05/2010 22:12

It's hard to say NIGARWAWAWAWA any other way now, I love to say it, it makes me happy.

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Snobear4000 · 21/05/2010 22:19

I happen to agree with the OP, in fact, I think all correct pronunciation should be ridiculed. We didn't build a global empire just so that 21st century public-school "readers" could annoy us by saying "quesadilla" properly .

I holiday every year in Magaluf and never had to say "pie-ay-ya" because I always 'ad a full English anyways.

BeenBeta · 21/05/2010 22:43

Have we done BWAYNOS EYE REES (Buenos Aires) in (AR-THCENTINA) (Argentina) yet?

101damnations · 24/05/2010 23:28

My Kenyan friend pronounces it as Keenya.

Erbs used to bother me,until I read that at one time 'h' wasn't pronounced at the beginning of words.So perhaps the Americans are using an historically correct way of pronunciation.It hasn't annoyed me since I learnt that.

darkandstormy · 24/05/2010 23:48

op they also tend to say barrrrth instead of bath where is the r ffs.

brightyoungthing · 24/05/2010 23:54

Oh my God, parmeJAN
It annoys me so much when Americans say that.
And posta (WTF???)
And 'erbs, because DD has erbs palsy and is deffo not a herb
And rowt for route.
DD is obsessed with disney channel and loves a character called Tawney. The problem is that she thinks her name is Tohn-ee due to the way the American actors pronnonce it and we argue every day about it......
"That Tawney is so funny"
"Tohn-ee"
"Tawney"
"No, Tohn-eee"

You get the picture

brightyoungthing · 24/05/2010 23:57

I asked my Thai friend how to pronounce Thailand in Thai.

She said it was .......Thailand ! Just the same how I was saying it. Can this be right??

UndomesticHousewife · 25/05/2010 00:18

I say barth (sounds like there's an r in it) because that's how we say it!
But I don't say keeen-ya or chil-ay so I think I'm alright.

UndomesticHousewife · 25/05/2010 00:19

And don't the Swede's say Nor-ye without hard G? Just wondering...

UndomesticHousewife · 25/05/2010 00:22

One of my friends says see-a-batta for ciabatta, kwi-no-ah for quinoa, sc-A-llops don't want to say anything cos it will make me sound like I have a poker up my arse.

UndomesticHousewife · 25/05/2010 00:24

That should read No-rrr-ye (hard e as in egg)

MorrisZapp · 25/05/2010 10:57

Apparently instead of saying 'The Himalayas' you're meant to call that region 'Hi-MAH-lay-ah'.

But I just can't.

drobertson · 05/12/2013 22:54

I'm American and not everyone says Parmejan. There are a LOT of accents in the United States so you cannot really say that is how 'Americans' pronounce something. They say things completely different in New York than they do in the South and even more different in the Midwest. I say Tawny, but Southern people pronounce it more like what you are saying. I say Par meh zhan (zh like Zha Zha Gabor) but they say it differently elsewhere. My mom says warsh instead of wash and even says George Warshington was the first president. I have to think that there is a huge difference in pronounciations over there as well. Different parts of England, then Ireland, Wales, etc. pronounce things differently and that is exactly how it is here. Remember, we are a huge country so there are a LOT of different accents. In other words, NOT ALL AMERICANS PRONOUNCE THINGS THE SAME!

Urbanvoltaire · 05/12/2013 23:28

I've a friend who refers to Argentina as "The Argentine". She has relations there, I've never asked her why she calls it thus...

Samwidge · 05/12/2013 23:30

You do realise how old the original thread is?? ie 2010!

Hmm
Valdeeves · 05/12/2013 23:34

Chee - lay is the right pronounciation though? (I should know for various reasons)
Better to pronounce things properly, it doesn't make you a nob it just means you are cultured.

Chippingnortonset123 · 05/12/2013 23:35

Only read but Keenya is an age thing. My God daughter was brought up in Kenya but it will always be Keenya to her Grandparents and their friends, no matter what we all say.

JinglingRexManningDay · 05/12/2013 23:35

You do realise that England,Ireland and Wales are different countries don't you?

I know this is an ancient thread,I remember it first time round.