To be totally fed up with Political Correctness

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I'm all for manners, equality and respect but my word, it's all becoming over the top don't you think?

No specific examples, just noticed it recently.

oojimapflip - have you read any of CW Lewis' science fiction? I can't remember any names but there was one about space travel to an ocean world ruled by a mother figure on a raft of leaves. Was very odd. Lewis was an old reactionary but with a lyrical imagination.

Yes I agree long gone are the days where I could call someone a paki, spaz or a lesbo, it has really ruined my language.

well skihorse you said the OP was not being unreasonable when she stated "I am totally fed up with Political Correctness" which I interprepted to mean that you agreed with her - correct?

I think my post was pretty much in line with the statement you said you agreed with - but if you'd like to tell me which bits you disagree with I will be delighted to take your word on it.

and given that my post was actually one paragraph pointing out that change in society is a gradual progression that has been taking place over many years - I think you are slightly exaggerating in calling it a "diatribe".

But anyhoo - please. What are your views? Delighted to know - honestly.

I think I tried "Out of the Silent Planet" and didn't get on with it to well. The great reactionary, elitist, eugenicist ;)

"The Screwtape Letters" are great fun though.

In a top end of league table Westminster primary school, they cannot say blackboard or sing baa baa black sheep.

This is true.

Do you mean things like "Gollywog" biscuits not being allowed to be called "Gollywogs" anymore.

or

"People of colour" not being called "black"

or

The suggestion that "Baa Baa black sheep was going to changed to Baa Baa rainbow sheep"

Oh my God, I just cross posted with fedupofthis

So it is true

just for rudetube

"In a top end of league table Westminster primary school, they cannot say blackboard or sing baa baa black sheep."

Prove it.

And if by some amaszing chance you can, prove that this is a directive from the LEA and not some bonkers person in the school taking guidance fron urban mythology.

I like PCness - it changes language (which can be so loaded). Modifying language is an excellent place to start changing behaviour.

Ds1 did come home from his first nursery singing baa baa white sheep. At his next nursery he went back to baa baa black sheep. I don't mind either, but it does happen. I didn't ask why they changed it etc

Oh no, the BaBa white sheep raises it's ugly head again

Coralanne, 'people of colour' is an American term. We don't use it in Britain. Maybe you have picked it up from watching tv?

Well one particular nursery picked up on the rumour (slug and wiki link).

Even if they did change it what does it matter?

It doesn't invalidate what are some very good recent changes in language.

Examples at ds' primary school: they no longer have a Christmas Fair but have a "winter fair"

At the Christmans Assembly (which they do still have), the nativity story is prefaced by wee introductory session that has the children saying "some people believe that...." before going on to describe the nativity.

There is no such caveat at the beginning of the Vaissaki, Diwali and Eid Assemblies.

Please note that I am not religious and am pleased that they are being introduced to all the regilions in their local community.

But it is a shame that Christianity seems to be "apologised" about.

They even change the words of "Away in a manger" so that the line "the little lord Jesus, asleep in his bed" becomes "the little baby Jesus...."

What's the ethnic make up of your school, prettybird?

In my DD's school they have to say chalk board instead of black board although the school haven't told them it used to be called a black board. DD looks at me like I come from 'the olden days' when I say blackboard! Apart from that the school is quite un-pc and has a wonderful policy on filming nativity plays-if you don't want your child to be photographed or filmed then they are not allowed to take part. I think that's quite refreshing in this day and age

(is that relevant or am I going off on a tangent????)

brightyoungthing, I'm suprised they have blackboards in schools these days - most have interactive whiteboards. Maybe they look at you like you're from the olden days cos they don't know what a blackboard is

I wasn't critising the bad/naughty thing btw, I understand the reason - just giving an example of what people mean when they say "pc gorn mad!".

Seeker: it is 60% ethnic minorities, the majoirty of which are (Muslim) Punjabis, but there are also (for exampe) Russian, Arab and Polish kids.

Love the Nativty Play idea Brightyoungthing! Sounds like my kind of school.

Missus84 Lol They only had a couple of black boards in the old part of the infant school and now she's in juniors they have interactive whiteboards.

Greenshadow It's a good approach isn't it? I feel sorry for parents not being able to video their kids in a school play. They do a really annoying version of sports day though, no parents allowed and no competitive sports. They only do team sports and they all bring home a certificate to say they have taken part! Still, if it saves me from having to enter the mum's race........