To think that certain people should be banned from public parks

[ElleBing]

We have a really lovely park near where we live. It's really big, with lots of grassed areas for picnics etc then an enclosed play area.

DH and I took DS there yesterday for a quick run around before dinner time. I noticed that a group of chavs had set up camp next to the enclosed park whilst their kids ran amok inside. The chav parents were sitting on the grassy bit drinking cider, eating junk food and swearing. Two of their kids started fighting one another and rather than try and intervene, the person who I assume was the father sat in the kids' pushchair screeching at the LOs to stop fighting. They carried on drinking their cider before deciding they were going home to "watch Nanny McPhee on pirate wiv a bag ov chipz" then when the motehr of one of the LOs wanted the child to leave the play area she started shouting "come on will ya pooface" Eugh?

All of the other parents were doing cats bum mouth, not just me. I wanted to tell them to shut up with their common mouths and bad language but too middle class, you see? I'dlove to be able to stand up to these people who make life unpleasant for everyone else...

Anyway, DH were talking about them and I said that people like them shouldn't be allowed in parks. They should have an admissions policy. AIBU?

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I know you don't care about who posts what, 'words on a screen' and all

but clearly I am far nosier than you
I make no apologies

and no tap tapping required
I am observant
tis an essential skill for a nosey parker

rofl at your post though
'hide the pentangle'
HA!

You are a troll surely!

honest to christ i dont particularly care who posts what.as long as its funny.and i never remember who said what.and dont care actually

but treat dat goat nicely

Hope its a Burberry bag you got there lowenergy

no goats were harmed by the writing of this post

you so do care scottishmummy, or you wouldn't be posting on this thread. You have posted a logical fucking fallacy.

ElleBing has something of Harry Hill about her

ElleBing's Mumsnet Burp

dont care if its made up or not.troll schmoll
don't care how long shes been on mn or her mn ancestry
dont care if she is a journalist

the group paranoia about suspecting journalists infiltrating mn is most amusing

Bit late to the party but may I just mention that I have twice had to take issue with DS~1 using the term 'chav' about certain groups of people this weekend. It's not big and it's not clever

i think the point of it lowenergybulb, is the truth is less important than the enjoyability of the banter....

orm- meets eyes over my own spectacles...whilst holding one of the arms in a superior manner.

no harm in some made up witty chuff

If I were on a wind up I'd have used the word 'cunt' rather than poohead/face.

Just my humble opinion though.

The Nanny McPhee thing still puzzles me - why?? But why????

it was a funny post.quirky attention to detail.nanny mcphee indeedy

It has taken me (what feels like) forever to read the whole thread.

I would have found the smoking and drinking, coupled with the swearing and shouting at DCs anti social, I would have also been intimidated by them and found some of their behaviour to be inappropriate around other small children.

I wouldn't have wanted my little girl at only 2 and a half exposed to profanities over her head at their children. Definitely not at her age.

It was anti social behaviour. If they'd been drinking a beer enjoying the weather, laughing etc without the swearing and smoking close to where other children may have to passively smoke their fumes or listen to their foul language, that would be different. Hope that makes sense what I am trying to say

However as the thread has gone on and I've read your replies, I've started to feel more uneasy with your general attitude. But I would have felt uncomfortable with all you have described at the park, but as others have said, as it is a public park there is little you can do. I suspect the admission policy was a joke though and not serious.

Could someone just humour me here and tell me why exactly any journo would want to infiltrate MN? It's hardly interesting, is it? Funny, yes. Worthy of journalistic infiltraion, no. I think some of you must have an over-inflated sense of how exciting you are if you think you're worth "infiltrating"

The Nanny McPhee thing was re-phrased. What he actually said was "Kylie, do you want to go home and watch Nanny McPhee and the Black Hole on DVD after we've bin down the chippy?"
Now, using my best journalistic/detective skills, I'd guess that since Nanny McPhee & TBH is still on at the cinema, that the lovely family would have to have a pirate copy to be watching on DVD? Actually on second thoughts that's awful judgey of me. Maybe they personally know Emma Thompson and she got a signed copy of the film sent to them poste haste as soon as it got put onto disc. Tchoh. Me and my terible judginess.

This thread is bugging me, I really think you are in for a shock when your child starts school and brings some 'interesting' words home with them. Sending them to a private school won't make any difference at all. What are you going to do then?

an open access site cannot be infiltrated.it can be viewed and copied if anyone really so bothered.anyway mn already does deal with dm to provide copy

Teaandcakeplease the admission policy thing was a joke. I kind of thought the AIBU? followed by indicated as such but the pious MNers who shalt not judge lest they be judgeth would not notice that. They were too busy judging me for judging. Or something.

Elle - can you specify what cider they were drinking and what junk food they were eating so that we can obtain a fuller picture.

Also, what were they wearing, what pushchair were they sitting in and did the 'cussing' elevate from pooface.

TIA.

love the attention to detail.so it was wee kylie was it

Belle I am under no illusion that LO might pick up bad habits from school. I'll deal with that as and when it happens. Can you really not see the difference between children picking up bad language from other kids who don't really know any better and picking it up from "adults" with their own children? Really?

When my child is age 4-5 or older I won't be quite as worried about her picking up a rude word at school and me explaining not to use it. It's the anti social behaviour at the park and swearing by adults in front of small children that makes me unimpressed. My DD is only 2 and a half right now, so so little. So I clearly wouldn't be comfortable with it right now.

I'm a lone parent on income support btw and I'm not a chav but I do care about a small child being exposed to other peoples smoke or foul language.

Take no offence to enjoying a drink in warm weather though, just to clarify.

I know I'm not the OP but wanted another voice on this thread, that also feels uncomfortable with swearing in front of small children.

lowenergy if you read my posts, you'll see that I mentioned that one of the delightfuls called his DS a dickhead. The pooface thing annoyed me because I don't think it was said in a "jokey" way.

But hey-ho. We live and learn and Mumsnet has taught me that verbally abusing your LOs is fine and not to be judged.

Now Elle, write out 200 times "Judging is wrong. I must not judge."

Is pooface bad language though? I'd be more concerned about my kids being exposed to the name 'kyle' than the word pooface TBH.