To think that certain people should be banned from public parks

[ElleBing]

We have a really lovely park near where we live. It's really big, with lots of grassed areas for picnics etc then an enclosed play area.

DH and I took DS there yesterday for a quick run around before dinner time. I noticed that a group of chavs had set up camp next to the enclosed park whilst their kids ran amok inside. The chav parents were sitting on the grassy bit drinking cider, eating junk food and swearing. Two of their kids started fighting one another and rather than try and intervene, the person who I assume was the father sat in the kids' pushchair screeching at the LOs to stop fighting. They carried on drinking their cider before deciding they were going home to "watch Nanny McPhee on pirate wiv a bag ov chipz" then when the motehr of one of the LOs wanted the child to leave the play area she started shouting "come on will ya pooface" Eugh?

All of the other parents were doing cats bum mouth, not just me. I wanted to tell them to shut up with their common mouths and bad language but too middle class, you see? I'dlove to be able to stand up to these people who make life unpleasant for everyone else...

Anyway, DH were talking about them and I said that people like them shouldn't be allowed in parks. They should have an admissions policy. AIBU?

Why don't you just get them to stitch a big 'C' on their back? Next you will not want their children in your child's school, you may as well round them up and put a wall around them.

I hear plenty of middle class people swear far worse then this.

If we put contraceptives in Turkey Twizzlers they'd all die out....

I understand that parks are for public use BUT you just don't do certain things when you're ten feet away from toddlers. Getting pissed up and swearing isn't for a kids' play area. I'm al for a free society but why do some of us have to abuse that?

ROFL!

No-one said it was ok to behave however you like. It's just that the situation described in the OP doesn't sound like the equivalent of people injecting heroin on play equipment.

Or Gregs sausage rolls -hang though I quite like those not lets stick with turkey twizzlers and those smiley face things

There is unfortunatley no law against smoking or swearing in public parks

I agree its not nice but unfortunately it does happen in public places and there is nothing we can do about it

In this area drinking in the park or in the street is an offence..so you could report them to the council for drinking

My garden backs onto a park, and my kids have grown up hearing all sorts. When they were little, they would come out with the odd swear but once they understood it was a bad word, they never said it again.

You dont have to worry about your kids saying the F word (wont swear cos i think you are a little delicate), if you teach them not to say it.

But that's how they live Elle, they probably don't know any different. All you need to do is teach your children not to repeat the words.

You have to understand that there are all sorts of different people. If you go to Glyndebourne you will see lots of hoorays drinking champers and smoking (a lot)*.

And those poshoes swear lots too although its all "come here Arabella you little bugger, Tarkers stop being a wanker".

Tis no different.

anf fruit shoots obviously

whats up with my typing today!!

Because the basis of a free society is that some people will act not in accordance with your liking, and that they can do that providing it's within the law. I too would love it if everyone was considerate of everyone else, but that is not the way it is. You can't go around just creating middle-class mummy enclaves in public areas.

But why not tinier?

YAB a bit U

It's a free county un all, but it is a PITA. We we're at a National Trust park yesterday and there was a group of people, of all ages, sat on the grass, they were leaving when we arrived, but they left a pile of crap behind...bottles, wrappers, still lit fag butts etc. My DS exclaimed 'thats naughty!'. Look at it as good teaching tool

Goodness, my son has heard far worse words then 'poo head' at his old middle class school with "nice families". Swearing isn't the reserve of the chav classes you know.
Would your attitude have been different if they were drinking champagne and eating smoked salmon instead? The staple diet of some is chips and beer.

Isn't it illegal to drink alcohol in a park though? It is here.
Whoever said it was a free country? Its not.

Needanewname - because some of us might not get in!

What would be the criteria for entry Elle, just out of interest?

Drinking alcohol in public is subject to by-laws. OP seemed to be more bothered about the swearing, which certainly isn't.

It's still a free-ish country. Relatively.

I've no idea runnybottom. They have a classical music concert in a park here at the end of the summer, most of the people who go just attend to get drunk, there's even a beer tent.

Why do so many people seem to think swigging champagne and braying would be any better?

It think it's bollocks to suggest people would think that's ok. Being anti social is being anti social full stop.

And calling your child offensive names is verbal abuse whether you're working class, middle class or bloody Royalty

yabu
as you said in thread title it is a public park so you can't choose who uses it.

Your children will hear far worse at school though, it's pointless trying to shelter them from foul language. You just have to tell them what the words mean and not to repeat them.

I'm going to stick up for the OP a bit. It IS a shame that people don't behave with more consideration for others in public parks. I don't agree with an admissions policy or banning booze in the park, but I don't think those people sounded very nice to be near and it's no surprise that some poor kids never really have a chance to learn how to conduct themselves in a civilised manner, because their parents don't.