Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to remove my daughter from school in final term of primary? she is 11 years old and being bullied.

115 replies

rocknstroll · 26/03/2010 11:13

She has been bullied for about 2 months, school have not dealt with it at all well, and my daughter has now become the class pariah - fair game to mock, laugh at, tell to shut up, go away, even hit and kick, most of her attempts to speak to the other children are rejected, and although she does have 4 friends, who I am really trying to help her to see are her real friends, she feels that her friendships with these are fragile, and that they are both in pairs, but she is the 'add on'. I am at my wits end having raised it with class teacher, head teacher, school governors and now even local education authority. The latter have been helpful, but cannot actually do anything until the start of May, in terms of practical help which will make my daughter feel better.
Would you just cut and run? It is so heartbreaking to watch that my instinct just tells me to get her out of there - she has done everything by the book, as have I, telling the teachers and trusting them, and they have really let us down and dd now feels undermined and like there is no safe place at school, or no guaranteed safe place. It is sometimes safe with her 4 friends, but she really feels the mockery and sniggering from the others and this is overshadowing the fact that she is not, as many victims of bullying are, completely alone.
what would you do?

OP posts:
rocknstroll · 26/03/2010 12:43

she has been physically attacked. I told head I would report to police for assault if she was attacked one further time. Head said 'this is getting ridiculous, now you are talking about getting the police involved???' in an incredulous tone of voice. I've gone above head, to full governing body and now to local education authority, who were great in terms of agreeing with me school had handled it terribly, but all they have offered is restorative justice, with the preparation for that to commence in May, so the actual 'justice' unlikely before June. They leave in July! And poor your DS - it is just dreadful isn't it. Just dreadful. I feel I have done everything I can possibly think of. I have received and followed advice from anti bullying charities, the local education authority, and friends with relevant expertise. But the bottom line is that the school are not equipped to deal with this and that gives me no confidence at all.

OP posts:
boiledeggandsoldiers · 26/03/2010 12:46

Poor you and poor DD. I wish I had an easy answer for this. If your daughter is being hit and kicked, this is assault and technically you could report the bullies to the police. That might force the school to get their act together.

porcamiseria · 26/03/2010 12:46

I am so sorry for you and DD, these stories really pull at my heartstrings like nothing else does.

Ref schooling I dont know whats best re the last term, I cant advise , just do what your gut tells you.

I think many people on this site were bullied at school and have come out the other side.

One thing I think that would be good to think about is WHY is she bullied? for example I was bullied as I was weak (did not stand up for myself), a bit babyish, middle class and a bit of a baby. Once I got the boobs and a gob on me it stopped.

But I do think its worth having an honest look at why they are picking on her , and seeing if there is ANYTHING you can help adress. It might be nothing, but do think about this

I also think that boosting her self esteem is a must, I urge you to develop non school social activities where she can make friends.

I had almost despaired but once I was in sets with quieter, more academic and less tough kids I made friends and enjoyed school.

I am so sorry she is going throught this, and for you too.

Please have hope, as things will get better

AgentZigzag · 26/03/2010 12:49

I thought that about what message you might be sending to your DD rocknstroll, but fk it, why should she have to put up with this kind of behaviour.

If you were getting bullied like this at work, you'd change jobs. If your DH was bullying you constantly, you'd divorce him.

I can imagine that the overriding thought in your head is to protect your DD, and if she takes anything away from this situation, it'll be that her Mum will move heaven and earth to keep her safe and happy What a great lesson for her to learn.

LittleSilver · 26/03/2010 12:51

I know someone who did this (removed to another school just for three months) Said it was the best decision she ever made.

elmofan · 26/03/2010 13:01

sorry i had not read your thread properly , [hugs] its so hard when you feel you are getting no where , in my ds's case (ive had two meetings with his principal this week ) his head tries to turn the tables on my ds .
i am not in the UK so dont understand why they can not help your dd until the start of may ? you are a great mum & doing everything possible to get this sorted x

rocknstroll · 26/03/2010 13:08

They are picking on her because she doesn't let them away with picking on others. There are some kids in the class who are labelled 'geeks' or similar, and my dd wouldn't join in with the piss taking, stood up for them, and in doing so placed herself in the line of fire. It has all been fine all through primary but then in last 18 months their extremely strict teacher left, they had a couple of supply teachers and now they have a total wet blanket, so I think the class has kind of unravelled, and I think my dd was just unlucky that this teasing of 'geeks' took place during crossover between two diff supply teachers, and then she became the target herself. Also, all of the other kids in his class and most of the others in the school come from one ethnic background, and we don't come from that ethnic background, and I have a horrible feeling that is a factor too, though it has only been overt once.

OP posts:
BelleDeChocolateFluffyBunny · 26/03/2010 13:13

My son had a very similar problem with a very similar attitude from the head ('it was all his fault/all the children from here come from good families and would never do anything like that' ), I pulled him out at the end of year 5, he's now in a private church school, it's really cheap and they are very nurturing so maybe it's something you can look into?? Ds was told he had to sort out any problems himself, when he tried to talk to the bullies he was told off by the teacher for aggrivating things, when he walked off they followed him and carried on, when he went to the teacher he was told off, if he tried to fight back he was told off and hurt, there wasn't anything he could do. I disagreed with the head telling him that he should sort problems like this out himself, I always tell him to get help for problems like this as a child who is being bullied should never feel like they are alone, this is a time where they need adult support and help.

I wouldn't send my child back there

SE13Mummy · 26/03/2010 13:15

Do you know if there is a transition worker at your DD's secondary school? It would make sense to get in touch with the secondary and seek advice from there too as they be able to access support or make referrals that the primary school can't/don't know about.

It's a shame that the school haven't been more pro-active and supportive in eliminating the bullying behaviour. Have they tried things such as moving the culprits/ringleaders into other classes, making alternative playtime arrangements etc.?

I usually teach Y6 and I'd be sad to think that a pupil would miss out on what we do as a class once the wretched SATs are out of the way but then again I'd be devastated to think that anyone in my class would be suffering such blatant bullying with no real hope that it would end. I can't believe that nothing can be done until May - does the school have no imagination or initiative of its own?

If your DD is desperately unhappy at school then there really is no value in her remaining where she is currently and possibly a lot to be said in favour of moving to a new primary school and seeing that mini-transition as a rehearsal for the more significant move in September.

I do hope you and your DD find a welcoming, caring school who will accommodate her for the end of Y6; KS2 classes aren't bound by the class size limit so even a full school may take her (possibly immediately after Easter if she's a dead cert for level 4's and 5's!).

MorocconOil · 26/03/2010 13:23

Have you contacted Kidscape? They are very experienced in bullying issues, and give good advice.
Sorry your DD is going through this, and you too.

elmofan · 26/03/2010 13:32

have you gone to the police yet ? if not go today if possible & tell them everything , they will have a record of events then if your dd is hit or hurt again ask the police to go to the school & interview everyone involved . also keep a diary of everything , stating

  1. what happened 2)when & where it happened (dates if possible)
  2. how your dd felt
  3. what action her school has taken . good luck x
porcamiseria · 26/03/2010 13:40

i see, well nothing you can do if that's the case. get her the hell out of that school , and hope for happier days and that she gets through this OK. sigh

spongebrainbigpants · 26/03/2010 13:44

rocknstroll, I'm so sorry you and your DD are going through this - I write from two perspectives, firstly I was a victim of bullying at primary school and secondly I am now a Y6 teacher (hmm, a therapist's dream ).

My parents did exactly what you're planning to do as I was also starting a new school away from my bullies in Y7. It was, in my mind, a perfectly acceptable decision and didn't do me any harm - in fact, I would say it was a godsend as it gave me a chance to rebuild my shattered confidence before I had to face secondary school.

If you are able to do it, then do it.

underactivethyroidmum · 26/03/2010 15:37

Rocknstroll - is there a 'ring leader' or is it that there are a group that think it's ok to bully your DD ?

I too have had issues with bullies - my DD is also in yr 6, and I found the only way to deal with the problem was to tackle the parents head on.

My advice would be to confront the little bastards sorry darlings parents in the playground, in front of other parents, and ask them are they proud that their offspring can cause such distress to your daughter. It's amazing how far a little sarcasm and humiliation can go.

My DD was offered the choice of leaving early by my DH and I but refused as she wanted to take part in the end of term play and participate in other 'nice' things but I wouldn't hesitate to take her out if I thought it would make her happy.

Hugs to your daughter - hopefully it will get better once she moves to secondary school

brassband · 26/03/2010 17:18

I have just moved my 8YO DD for much the same reason.She had endured years of meanness and exclusion from the girls in her yr group.It was beginning to affect her health (developed irritable bowel and huge ezcema flare up) Our GP said we should get her out move her at once.

She started her new school and is like a different child.It is very inconvenient to have different DC at different schools, but the change in my DD has been spectacular.

NK5c74826eX126faefc14d · 26/03/2010 17:56

Take her out. Why prolong the agony? It doesn't sound like things will improve next term. If it was me I wouldn't even bother putting her in a new school for one term.

If the education authority asks just say you're home educating her for the last term. I would take the opportunity of spending some time with her before secondary school and new friends take over. To do the whole HE thing properly is a bit of a waste of time in this instance. By the time you've researched it all etc the term will be nearly over. I doubt they really learn much in the final term of year 6 anyway. Have some fun together!

Hope things improve for her at her new school.

Cartoose · 26/03/2010 18:16

OP, trust your instincts, you've done everything you possibly can. I'd take her out if I were you.

P.S. you sound like a great mum

valleyqueen · 26/03/2010 19:21

I am going through the exact same thing, what is it with year 6, the learning mentor says they have the same probs year after year.

You have my sympathies it's such a horrible feeling and I am watching this thread for answers myself as I am not sure she will be going back after Easter.

bubbles4 · 26/03/2010 22:30

It might be worth having a chat with these people Ace.They gave me a lot of advice when I changed dd,s school.

caen · 26/03/2010 22:43

I'd be really tempted to get the name of the inspector from the last Ofsted report and send a letter stating LEA agree the school handled it terribly. It will at least mean that their procedures are flagged and with any luck they'll have it stipulated as an area for improvemnt on their next inspection. Even if he listens to no one else the head will be prompted to act by Ofsted. A police report wouldn't go amiss either.

My DD is nowhere near this age so I can't really comment but I think I'd be likely to pull her out if it's that bad especially if she's child likely to get level fours or fives in her -SATs because that will really annoy the head , Another school might give her confidence back in just a few weeks. I've dealt with issues similar to this (not as bad) but they were resolved because everyone in the school takes it very seriously. Poor child.

brassband · 28/03/2010 13:34

I don't understand why the LEA are saying they cvan't do anything til May.They processed my DDS mid-term move in < 24 hours

maltesers · 28/03/2010 19:06

Home school would be good. You could take here to exhibitions, shows, museums libraries etc so not too much arduous self teaching. All educational and interesting. Plus swim, walk , parks, field trip, films, girl guides, whatever takes her interest.
Early holiday somewhere and yes maybe another primary school that feeds into the secondary one.

Its disgusting that her present school dont deal strictly with this sort of bulliying...cos they should.
See the Head and push the matter further.
your childs happiness is paramount !!
Good luck X

Maggie00 · 28/03/2010 19:10

I'd pull her out now and work on giving her 6 happy months before she starts at secondary school. If she can read and write and do maths she'll be fine. poor girl. I wouldn't put my dd through that. Good luck.

venusonarockbun · 28/03/2010 19:17

Do it and dont even think twice about it. Get her away from the little **s as soon as possible. Been there - got the T-shirt!

CirrhosisByTheSea · 28/03/2010 19:27

Agree with others who say pull her out. Be decisive and don't agonise about it; it would be wrong to leave her where she is to put up with this for 4 more months. What is to be gained? On the evidence you've given in your posts, there is nothing to suggest that anything will improve. And there will clearly be damage done to your DD in prolonging her time there.

I think there is also a huge boost to your DD in terms of her self esteem, to have her parents take such decisive and protective action for her. It will be a good thing all round I'm sure.

I agree with someone up-thread who said to see if the secondary she'll be going to have a transition worker; it would be good for her to be able to access any familiarisation sessions the school will be running, and good for the new school to know about what she's been dealing with in her current place.