Porn

[Bubbles01]

Am I being unreasonable for getting upset that my husband keeps looking at porn?

"I also know several men who use porn who are not sexist - towards me anyway!"

Well that's it, isn't it? You (presumably!) are a 'nice' girl, a mother, the sort of woman who 'deserves' respect. Whereas the girls on the film are just something to wank over, who 'choose' to do it and thereby give up all rights to be treated respectfully. Just because they treat you nicely, doesn't mean they have that attitude to all women. I have pretty much never attracted derogatory comments from any men, because I'm white, young, middle-class, university-educated and talk a bit like Princess Diana. I don't kid myself that I would be treated the same way if I was a Ukranian immigrant working in a massage parlour.

YA so NBU. I hate porn, the vast majority of it is complete juvenile bullshit. And if he keeps doing it openly even though he knows you're feeling low and that it makes you feel worse, he's being an insensitive, immature bastard.

Ok 99% then. I'm not say 100% of men are viewing porn 24/7.

Obviously now they are only a 'click' away........

For those ladies who would object to their partners looking at porn (which is your perogative) would you object to your partner having a ham shank over this sort of thing?

www.eroticprints.org/

Don't worry, it's tastefull - porn for posh people I promise!

My DH was laughing at the thought of a man not being turned on by porn - not at your beliefs - I think.

I did notice the box of tissues in my teenage sons room moved next to the computer.......at least I can pick up his dirty socks without too much trepidation!

In the abscence of a male point of view shall we agree to disagree, ladies?

why amber ? what is your point ?

that there are different types of porn ?

amber, I think most people aren't miffed with the idea of their DP finding other women arousing, it's the fact that those are REAL PEOPLE on that screen, not objects, people who may not even want to be doing it.

My pov:
Erotic drawings - no problem
Sex scene in a film - fine
Fantasising about Scarlett Johannsson whilst having a wank - not bothered

Watching some young girl have some fairly extreme things done to them with no proof that they are doing it of their own free will - not OK. If he wants to look at it, whatever, he's an adult. But he would be wasting his time to persuade me to accept it as harmless

dittany: you might as well say that not all dogs lick themselves, because someone has put one of those funnels over their head.

The fact that those dogs have no access doesn't change the truth of the statement.

Also, if you actually wanted me to answer your question (whether I use porn or not), it would have been better, not to respond to my question with rudeness ("It's not that difficult to follow an argument is it").

I think I should have stuck on

Au revoir.

< applauds brahms >

I agree with every word she says

I don't try to control my DH either, but I would like to think he doesn't think of women trapped/coerced into the porn/prostitution industry as something sub-human

dittany what's wrong with BDSM?

Ok, you object to the made in italy thing - how about erotic drawings? Would you object to that? Most men have a mental "wnk bank anyway, conisting of women he's seen in the street, memories of ex-girlfriends, porn, your friends, his partner or whatever it is that floats his boat.

What I am trying to get at - it is the idea of porn full stop which you object too, or the potential exploitation of the participants?

For the record, I have no moral objection to prostitution. I think it should be legalised, regulated and taxed.

Actually what Brahms has just posted is exactly what I want to say.

Totally agree that it is normal for anyone, male or female, to be turned on by viewing scenes in a film, thinking about Scarlett J etc, however the nastiness that is the porn industry is something which is vile.

amber, do you have daughters ?

Dittany is it really possible for one woman to patronise another, by simply saying 'ladies'. I am being rather light hearted about this as I find it all quite amusing - I'm obviously some shallow low life!

The term "ladies" is offensive now? I use it quite regularly on here and at work!

I've said "thank you ladies" when I've asked for advice on here before, or "I apologise ladies" when I waffled on. I apologise if it offends

I ain't falling into that trap AnyFucker

it's not really a trap amber, AF's just confronting your double standards

They do in Amsterdam - live sex shows are (or at least were) quite common. As for the ones here, a few I know have done on daft stag nights etc.

why not, amber ?

are you in denial that these women being used for men's pleasure are someone's daughter ?

oh no, they are not are they...because they are different to the rest of us, so it is ok < shrugs >

FWIW, I am not afraid to say I do have a daughter and it was her birth and susequent development into a lovely young woman that has crystallised my thoughts on this matter

before her, I am sure I was under some of the same misapprehensions as some of the women on this thread

but then I grew up, thought carefully about what really happens to coerced, addicted, trapped young women and gradually changed my mind

Of course it's a trap. I know exactly where it's going. You may note, that at no point have I said that women are never exploited within the porn industry. My point has been that the idea that most men do not enjoy a quick hand shandy over a few pictures of naked ladies is naive.

Of course the men who do (even if they are your partners, friends etc) are not going to open up to you about it if they think you are going to react with disgust. Who wants to see disgust in the eyes of another?