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Bubbles01 · 22/02/2010 18:54

Am I being unreasonable for getting upset that my husband keeps looking at porn?

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MrsMontague · 25/02/2010 18:20

dittany how many times do i have to say the same things over and over again??

I know that some women are abused in the pornography business. But that is not visibile during the silly films which men watch. You make it sound as though they are watching an actual rape, not hardcore sex with lots of 'Oohs' and 'Oh that's good!'

Men probably don't realise, and yes there are examples of this kind of vile behaviour, but on the whole they are not. And I was abused and would never watch anything I felt to be rape, so I think that me and you are going to disagree full stop on this. You are way out of line to suggest that men enjoy abuse, that is a despicable thing to say and you must think terribly of any men in your family if you believe that. Because although you darling husband 'doesn't watch it', I can guarantee some of the males in your family will.

And I have not been brainwashed at all, I have a high sex drive and like my DH to be a man.

amber1979 · 25/02/2010 18:21

I personally find the idea of my lover aroused, very erotic. Which I think is fairly libertated.

MrsMontague · 25/02/2010 18:23

Dittany, it does turn me on. The same way it turned me on when he watched me mess around with my best girl friend. That was completely my idea, and I got a massive buzz from it. I approached him with the idea, because I had been with her before when we were alone, and the thought of him watching turned me on. It was completely my idea. Is this me being brainwashed too? I don't get much pleasure from sharing these personal things, but it's essential to you understand that women can enjoy these things just as much as men!

MrsMontague · 25/02/2010 18:27

Amber, again exactly what I was trying to say, but in a much more sophisticated way. You need to explain to me how to make a point without telling my most intimate experiences!

dittany · 25/02/2010 18:43

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amber1979 · 25/02/2010 18:54

dittany if your argument rests on telling somebody what they think, then it's YOU who are trying to subsume a persons identity.

MrsMontague · 25/02/2010 18:56

Dittany that's not what I said! I said that I don't mind him watching porn on his own, because it turns me on that he is turned on.

I liked porn before we even got together! I think I am going to have to bow out now, because this argument is like banging my head against a brick wall, you are already convinced and I have nothing more to say than what I already have. You have a very convenient mind about this whole thing.

midnightsbrokentoll · 25/02/2010 19:12

I thought this was a thread about porn and clicked on it with some relish. Unfortunately it's just another thread about how dittany is right and us mere mortals wrong.

dittany · 25/02/2010 19:42

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MrsMontague · 25/02/2010 19:47

No, stop twisting my words. You asked me what HE looked at alone, and I told you, and said it turns me on seeing what he has chosen to look at. We look at different things when alone. Not that I have to justify that to you. I quite like being the submissive type tbh

OpenMindsPlease · 25/02/2010 19:52

I am

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OpenMindsPlease · 25/02/2010 19:57

I am a regular reader on here, although don't really post much I have namechanged just in case anybodie recognizes me!

Dittany I have seen a lot of ur posts and i genrally have a lot of respect for the things u say but i really disagree with you on this issue.

A good few years ago i worked as an escort. it started out just as a one time thing, but i really enjoyed it and did it for a couple of years. nobody forced me into it but i found that element of desire and mindless sex a real turn on. the money was great and i loved how i could play a part and get men horny in minutes! nobody forced me into this and nobody abused me. i actually liked being this sexual godess to these men

I also, have posted on a sit called newbienudes where it is an amatuer site where men and women can post pics of themselves and other members can rate them. i was on there for a while and loved that i could post pics and strangers would tell me how turned on they were and what they loved about me. it was so liberating and a very naughty pleasure being complimented in that way from horny strangers.

so mrsM is right, some women just like that kind of fing. i certainly did. and would not think bad of my husband becuz he watches porn!

dittany · 25/02/2010 20:02

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iggi999 · 25/02/2010 20:03

I don't think Dittany has ever said that there aren't some women who are turned on by watching/taking part in porn. I don't think that's the point.
I do love the idea that when someone (who you probably aren't attracted to) pays you to let them penetrate you, that that's them treating you like a goddess.

MrsMontague · 25/02/2010 20:08

Oh dittany, so you know what I feel/think do you? You really do believe yourself to be the absolute authority on porn/women who like porn/women who let their husbands watch porn/men who watch porn. You have every single scenario tidy in your mind obviously. I give up.

OpenMindsPlease · 25/02/2010 20:15

Yeh of course ther were times when i didnt always fancy the arse of my clients.

But when ur an escort working for na agency u do get an amount of protection n respect. i was not a prossy! bein an escort is very different and its legal! the men booked me for dates such as dinner n drinks but i found it a really turn on that they had tht desire for me.even if the men werent really to my taste, the fact that they wud want me so much was enuff for me to wanna do it. it made me feel sexy and empowerd. most of the men i encounterd wer very respectful and when they werent i told them to cut it out, i am very fiesty and worked for an agency who wer very supportive of the staff.

and newbienudes is just a laugh, its exhibitionism and i loved the fact that men might be luking at the pictures and getting turned on by me! that's the reason i did it, because i like men (and women) lusting after me. damn me to hell if u want.

iggi999 · 25/02/2010 20:18

Openminds, you mentioned mindless sex and money, so I'm assuming that you did have sex on at least some of your escort dates?
So how is that not being a prostitute, exactly?

OpenMindsPlease · 25/02/2010 20:20

I have just said yeh i did have sex, but thats not what i got paid for, i got paid for going on dates..but i had sex with the clients at my discretion and i susally really enjoyed it.

MrsMontague · 25/02/2010 21:36

You don't have to justify your self OpenMinds it is up to you what you do and what turns you on.

Dittany seems in disbelief that women find that kind of sexuality liberating and tbh she will probably have a field day in telling you why being an escort was wrong and that you must have been coerced into it or desperate.

I personally don't think I could be an escort, but I respect you immensely for being so sure about whats right for you, and you have reinforced the point that it is not just men who like anything other than the missionary position.

The things some of the women on here have said, make me wonder if we are not meant to indulge any of our husbands fantasies as they are all perverted. This thread has taken some unusual twists and turns, and i don't think we will all agree at any point. Different strokes for differnt folks eh?

dittany · 25/02/2010 21:49

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absinthe · 25/02/2010 21:49

Open minds - did it pay well? curious as I was once approached by such an agency but I had not even been deflowered at that stage so I never pursued it. From the other angle, I know that there is a fair bit of money to be made from running such an agency (I have a friend who lives off the interest income accruing on the money made by her father). Unlike porn, it still retains a (very thin) veneer of respectability as the obligations are always kept vague

dittany · 25/02/2010 21:56

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2old4thislark · 25/02/2010 22:52

Dittany I ignored your quote from Michelle Avanti for two reasons.

  1. I could probably find a quote from porn actress saying how much she loves her job etc and you would say she's lying,paid to say that or whatever.

  2. I really don't care. I can't really get that steamed up over the rights and wrongs of the porn industry and whether or not men wank over it.

IMHO there are far worse things in the world, ie child abuse and neglect, flood, eathquakes, famine, war, Tony Bliar........

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