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To be fuming at the school for sending ds's shoes, with someone's human shit on them, home in a bag?

107 replies

Spidermama · 08/02/2010 16:06

Someone shat on the toilet floor. It's the second time in a week this has happened. Anyway, today ds stood in the poo and they told him to put on his gym shoes, put his shitty shoe in a bag, and sent it home to me.

What TF would you do? It was diahorrea apparently. Now I have a grim bin liner in my home with a turdy shoe in it.

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RustyBear · 08/02/2010 22:02

"the school staff are not paying enough attention if this is the 2nd time it has happened!"

Are they supposed to station a member of staff in the toilets full-time? Or follow every child to the toilet?

saggyhairyarse · 08/02/2010 22:04

I'm seeing a poor child with explosive diarrheoa, accidently pooing on the toilet floor as cannot get to the loo in time and your DS not seeing it as it was by the side/back of the loo and he stood in it whilst flushing. I am not seeing anyone deliberately crapping on the floor or not being careful where stepping in the toilet here.

I think a letter should be sent home reminding parents of the length of time required to recover and mentioning said incident. Teachers reminding the children to report an incident due to spread of infection and that they need to go home if have diarrehoa.

So far as the shoes goIwould hose down and fling in the washing machine with as little contact as poss folllowed by a spray of anti-bac but I would not throw away. The soles ofchoes are hardly sterile.

CirrhosisByTheSea · 08/02/2010 22:05

And what gets me, is this incredible sense of entitlement, combined with an utter lack of focus on personal responsibililty. This child was old enough to clean his own blummin' shoe for goodness sake! Why on earth fume at the school? Why not fume at a 10 year old who did not have the observation skills not to stand on poo on the floor, and who then didn't have the sense to rinse it off? If you think it's not appropriate for some reason for them to do it unsupervised, then they could be helped at home or use a hose or watering can.

SixtyFootDoll · 08/02/2010 22:08

CAnt believe people are so hysterical about pooh
Its not the teachers job to clean their pupils shoes
A 10 yr old should be able NOT to step in poo, unless other child deliberately shat on his shoes.

Get over it.

pointydog · 08/02/2010 22:13

"If it was dog poo I would take it on the chin."

Oh that has made me laugh. I needed a laugh

Mumcentreplus · 08/02/2010 22:15

..would not blame the parent of the child..how the heck would they know?...but tbh..what kind of school has shit in its toilets uncleaned on the floor? this is primary school..and then sends the shoe home???...not a good look imo

pointydog · 08/02/2010 22:15

"So I'd tread carefully." lol @ pram. This is good

Mumcentreplus · 08/02/2010 22:22

that means the child walked around the school with said shitty shoe..when was it noticed?...sorry but human shit should not be left in bathrooms..how many other children walked in it...so now its the kids fault for not noticing shit on the bathroom floor???

RustyBear · 08/02/2010 22:24

Mumcentreplus - the school can't check the toilets every five minutes - how do you know how long it had been there?

CirrhosisByTheSea · 08/02/2010 22:25

errrr.....yes. I would have hoped that a ten year old would have seen shit on the floor. No, ideally it wouldn't have been there but if it was done between caretaker's visits then realistically, it is going to be there, isn't it, if these ten year olds a)shit on the floor b) don't alert anyone to it c)tread in it d) walk it round the school

Goober · 08/02/2010 22:27

Agree this is not nice but what did you really expect the teacher to do?

Mumcentreplus · 08/02/2010 22:38

I'm not saying check it every 5 minutes but fucksake!..when it was noticed on the shoe that was probably when it was cleaned so why not get the child to clean the shoe?..imagine if it was a parent bringing in a child with shitty shoe..all hell would break loose!..not hygenic (sp) and a bit careless..I'm sure there were fab reasons why the shit was left but its not a good look no matter how you cut it..dont tell me there are not TAs in the class..this was not the first time and wont be the last i'm sure..human shit in bathrooms does not look good!

CirrhosisByTheSea · 08/02/2010 23:45

The role of the TA is not to clear shit from loos

scanty · 08/02/2010 23:52

I'm incredibly lucky then! 6yr old DS swallowed a coin (similar to 50p size). Had to take a potty to school so he had to do his poos for a week in front of the school nurse (I did offer to come and check myself as I lived just round the corner). Not only did I get the money back but she had cleaned it properly as well - now that's service!!

Mumcentreplus · 09/02/2010 00:20

I'm not saying its her job..but if you work with kids shit happens..you cant suddenly not be responsible for children and their state because poo is involved??..esspecially if it was caused in the actual school..
I'm sorry but it makes them look bad..anywhere else if your child was left in their care or even if you visited a bathroom in a resturant and you child came back to the table with crap on their shoes..you would be livid..why is it different for school?

@scanty

cathcat · 09/02/2010 01:10

As a parent you have access to rubber gloves, disinfectant and a suitable sink to wash things in. As a teacher you do not. All bleach etc are in a locked cupboard (cleaning is contracted out). many schools do not have full time janitors. If this happened I would have enough problems dealing with cleaning up the mess on the floor to prevent other children from walking in it, never mind cleaning individuals shoes.

Goblinchild · 09/02/2010 01:38

You know what would happen whilst the teacher was attempting to clean the shoe with soap and water?
Child A would give child B a haircut.
Child C would throw up at the smell of poo.
Child D and E would nip off to the loo to have a look, tread poo all over the floor and then Child F's mother would have a traumafest at the danger her child had been exposed to with germs and want the teacher ssacked for negligence.
And they'd all be late out at the end of the day.
The surface of the shoe leather would get damaged and the parent would want a replacement pair. With an upgrade.
Stick it in a bag for profligate parents to throw in the bin. Then you've only annoyed one parent

Cyb · 09/02/2010 07:44

I have had to send shoes covered in fox poo home in a bag to poor parents to clear up AND...a coat where a child had rolled in fox poo. it's not s decision easily made as we all know how we would feel to open such a bag. BUT its not the schools job to wash it.

MaMight · 09/02/2010 08:35

It is not a question of parental sense of entitlement, or the appropriate duties of a teacher.

The glaringly obvious point is that when shoes get covered in shit they need to be cleaned, not bagged up and sent on a jolly jaunt in the bag of a 10-year-old boy.

That just risks getting poo on all sorts of other things - lucky the bag didn't split -, and presumably makes the shoes that much more shit-covered and harder to clean.

When shoes get shit covered they need to be cleaned, whether it is by the boy who owns them, the teacher, TA, school cleaner, school secretary or head. No one is too precious to clean shit off shoes. It's not that big a deal, it just needs doing right away.

porcamiseria · 09/02/2010 08:48

what you expect them to clean shit off his shoes???? YABVVVVVVVU
shit happens!

clam · 09/02/2010 08:56

LOL at goblinchild!

sarah293 · 09/02/2010 09:15

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Devendra · 09/02/2010 09:17

Well I havnt read all the thread.. but I would be fucking really pissed off if my child came home with shitty shoes that hadnt even been rinsed off.

So what if the bag had split and shit contaminated my child? There is a risk of transmision of Hepatitis from faeces.. I would ring and ask the school about their health and safety policy.

Surely the school has access to disenfectant, gloves and running water... even a cursory rinse would have been ok..

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 09/02/2010 09:22

MaMight - you said:

"...When shoes get shit covered they need to be cleaned, whether it is by the boy who owns them, the teacher, TA, school cleaner, school secretary or head. No one is too precious to clean shit off shoes...."

Interesting that you don't mention the parents - are they the only people who are too precious to clean shit off shoes?

When ds1 was in Yr2, he was sent home with his coat in a bag, with the inside covered in fox poo. He had apparently trodden in it on the way to school (without me noticing) and the first thing he'd had to do at school was sit down on the hall floor, on his coat, and the fox poo had got all over the lining of it.

I cleaned the coat - and I certainly didn't complain either to the school or to my friends/relatives/neighbours/random strangers that the school should have done it!

SoupDragon · 09/02/2010 09:32

I agree with those who say it's not the school's responsibility to wash stuff.

For every parent that's happy for the shoes/whatever to be washed, there'll be one who storms in to say that they've ruined the item by doing so.