to think WHAT ist he point of the Sunday Times and where is the relevance with my life?

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I am probably never going to go on holiay to Papua New Guinea.

Rod Liddle is an arsewipe.

Do not need to look at adverts for 2.4 million ound gaffs in Putney. Likewise am not in the market for a second home in Zermatt.

I can't afford the shoes and think that Natalie Hartley looks like a lazy-eyed scrubber whatever she happens to be wearing that week.

Am not in the market for 6 figure sum job running a council somewhere.

Am not going to watch sadie Frost in her new theatrical appearance.

Do not frequent the same restayurants as AA Gill.

Sunday Times has absolutely no relation to my life at all. Why do I love it so much and devour it every week?

i want it on the record that i adore romola garai and will not tolerate any dissent on the matter of her wondrousness.

natalie" shoot me against a wall" hartley

snoooooort

I like Weisz bless her.

Natalie hartley is off her rocker.

Sheherezade Gikdsmith was a ST regular before she was dumped.

Swinton appeared cool.
Then read an interview when she banged on about her kids with names like diseases, picking them up from Steiner school, and how she lives with her hairy (rich) husband and younger "sweetheart" ("everyone has one, don't they?") and I'm afraid I Went Right Off Her.

Could be jealousy, tbh.

I do wish she'd find a good mascara though.

Yasmin Le Bon pops up now and again, too.

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Was it AA Gill who wrote that piece about packing in atheism and therefore all atheists were stupid?

I only buy it to read Mrs Mills, it's worth the £2 just to read this bit. We recycle most of it without reading.

Aitch I remember that AA gill article he wrote about Millennium Dome - is very funny. He ripped the restaurant to shreds.

Have got collected reviews of aa and it is excellent. He really writes brilliantly (note resisted use of wordsmith).

There are lots of it I don't touch - finance, sport, the cars and gadgets bit.

Strat=ight in recycling.

I love the Sunday Times.

Bits of it annoy, and bits of it are irrelevant. The Travel section irritates. Who in god's name can really travel with children? I've been to over 20 countries in the last year and seen nothing of them, due to needing to be home to wash PE kits. Likewise driving. I don't care what I drive as long as it's reliable. And the Sport section. That's just for men, right?

But the arts section is okay and the books are mostly okay and the columnists familiar so that even when the irritate they are not of the level of irritation such that they mean you would no longer buy the paper. The news is the news and needs reading. And the crossword is the best. Even old beta male with his tragically uneventful life is worth the odd wry smile.

Couldn't do without it

I thought this today too - I don't agree with the style section that suede shorts are a good substitute for a skirt in the office!

Not in any office I've ever worked in.
We had a few STs over Christmas as my mum was staying. Is the only thing she has in common with PIL, this ST reading biz.
The Style section brings me out in hives.

< was not off head in 90s envy>

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Quattrocento - I really don't understand why someone who likes to think of themselves as very capable, as you do, cannot travel with children. Can you please elucidate?

We travel all over the place with the children and it never crosses our mind not to do so...

I so hear you, Quattro!

We travel with children because we have to, so stick to the UK for holidays.

Abroad, of course, well, we have to take them, but if it weren't to hand them over to family immediately upon landing so I can get a tan by my sister's pool, go for a run in the sunshine, go shopping for some decent clothes or see my mother's facialist, forget it!

It is such a Brit thing to burden oneself with young children to go to some hole like Egypt and call it a holiday.

Daisy must know someone to keep getting work, because she's dull and untalented.

Rosie Millard - I really didn't need to see her naked in the Culture section a couple of weeks ago, but it was really good inspiration to keep doing Pilates and get a tan when we're back home.

i think peopel can be too mbitious with holidays
kids want a pool generally
and other kids

I like AA Gill too. Aitch, funny you should mention that article of his re the Millennium Dome, one of my absolute favourite restaurant reviews EVER was his review of a restaurant there. It starts out with him standing out the front of the restaurant with the Blonde, and a hacked-off looking man comes out of the place with his family. He comes up to Gill and starts to say "It's awful, don't try it", but halfway through he recognises him, gets an evil glint in his eye and says to Gill "PLEASE go in there."

I also really like Giles Coren's reviews, and Caitlin Moran's articles. I am in two minds about India Knight's. Sometimes she seems a bit heartless and also a bit "Doesn't everybody have stacks of money and can afford to stay at home and repaint their home in Farrow and Ball paint every season?". Sometimes, she is really funny though.

However, recently, I've become a bit fed up with it all (esp the Style section) and have just bought the Observer and the FT Weekend.

Really? DSSs want to go to a country they've never been to before.

Yes, but Anna, your DSS's aren't young children any more.

Travelling with one young child isn't so bad, quite enjoyable, really.

But with three of them?

Pass the diazepam!

I quite look forward to the journey across, tbh, though, because I know at the end of it there will be sunshine, good company, great food and warm beaches, plus, time off for me and DH to be a couple.

But coming back?

Oh, joy, back to dreary, wet, depressing Scotland with a jet lagged baby.

I don't see why people do that for fun, tbh.