to have noticed that Tory voters are more polite on the whole than their left-wing counterparts

[SeaTheStars]

You don't get many lifelong Conservative voters talking about dancing on Michael Foot(e?)'s grave in the style of a rabid working class person talking about Mrs Thatcher do you?

Inflation was at nearly 30% at one point.

Trying out the Poll Tax on Scotland?

I remember our hall full of food parcels for local families who couldn't afford to eat or buy Christmas presents.

It isn't about your individual experience, it is about what happened to the fabric of society and what the country lost (e.g. control of assets for short term gain)

but whether you think 'good old Mrs T, sorted the miners out, helped people buy their own homes and generated a lot of wealth' or agree with the Mirror type view, it's still a bit mystifying - the hatred I mean, not just for her but for Tories as a whole

I went to a 1987 post election party in St John's Wood where you were meant to wear your colours.

I went in a nice red dress prepared to be outnumbered and for a great deal of good-natured crowing.

I wasn't expecting naked hostility

I've since learnd that some people are just not gracious in victory - either red or blue.

BTW my fellow journalist and Labour-voting friend always said she'd rather shag a Tory MP than a Labour one because the dinners were better.

So they aren't all bad.

I think that's an agree to differ one SeaThe Stars.

Though I suggest you smell the coffee and look at the real, measureable damage conservative policies have done.

She helped people buy their own homes and then plunged us into a recession where many thousands of people lost those same houses.

Wealth was generated for a small number of people - the gap between rich and poor became a chasm.

'You don't get many lifelong Conservative voters talking about dancing on Michael Foot(e?)'s grave'

Maybe not, but you get plenty of them talking in the vilest possible terms about immigrants, asylum seekers, blacks, homosexuals, women...

Polite? I don't think so.

tallulahbelly: 'BTW my fellow journalist and Labour-voting friend always said she'd rather shag a Tory MP than a Labour one because the dinners were better.'

That may be true, but one of the best pieces of graffitti I ever saw was simple and to the point 'Tories can't dance'. which probably means they are rubbish in bed too.

does hating thatcher make one working class? ooops i must have hallucinated going to private school, paid for by my both professional parents...silly me!

mind you i'd choose being thought of as rude over being thought of as a tory any day

yabvu!

is odd how Thatcher is responsible for everything that happened during her years, irrespective of the problems she inherited from Labour (remember the rubbish everywhere and nobody could bury their dead?), yet Labour utterly exculpated for anything that has gone wrong economically because of problems they inherited from her

but anyway even though this lot we have at the moment are quite poor can't imagine being bothered enough to hate them

so are you all planning to vote them in again?

the tory voters who have admitted it have in all cases been narrow minded xenophobes bordering on racist - if not openly so

Um, if you remember the problems Mrs Thatcher inherited from Labour, SeatheStars, how come you don't remember that Michael Foot was never PM?

And forgive me if I've misread here but..how come you had two young kids in the 80's if you were about '9'?

My voting habits are secret

don't think it was that long ago that entire country was racist, institutional racism yet to become a thing of the past too

don't think it's fair to equate Conservatives with BNP, BNP surely fall into rabid working class category?

I do not have strong polital views, but....having lived and worked for almost a decade in south yorkshire, and seeing the after effects of the mines being closed on communities in that area, i can see why those people are bitter and venemous towards Mrs T. Even now, many of the communities there are still in a real mess and have never really recovered from the mass unemployment and instability that resulted. I'm not saying that she shouldn't have shut the mines or the steel works, as i don't know enough aboout it, but when you see these places and how depressing they are, you can understand why some people are still pretty bitter I think.

there were no dead left unburied! that was a myth cooked up by the media!

I was born in 71

first child born 1990, second 1992 and third 1999

am not a troll (don't think) usually post under name MitchyInge but was thinking about racehorses earlier and am trying new name

why do you persistently link the words rabid and working class?

Maybe you missed my question OP, but how come you had two kids during the 80s if you were only little/about 9?

see above Janos for dates/ages

Ah OK, SeaTheStars. Cross posts! Still surprised you didn't remember Michael Foot accurately though if you remember the Callaghan/Wilson years.

I'm not sure you I would agree with you about it being better then. I was born in 1974.

My mum was a single parent and I remember having the sofa in my room as a bed because she couldn't afford to get me a new one. I also remember tedious hours spent in DSS offices with my mum.

I never felt deprived, I hasten to add but it most definitely wasn't easy.

Have you seen who the Tories have allied themselves to in the European parliament seathestars? Polish racists and homophobes, Latvians who think the SS had it about right. Lovely bunch.

If you think people don't hate Labour you obviously haven't come out to the countryside. THey're loathed here.

am in the countryside

do spend more time with animals than people tho so no wonder am lacking in certain social skills myself