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For starting altercation in cafe?

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AlwaysUltraFlexiWings · 04/01/2010 08:40

Last week, my SIL phoned to ask me, if I would like to meet her for a coffee in the town. Lovely said I.

We were sitting in the cafe for approximately 20 minutes when this woman and her husband started feverishly discussing me. I was breastfeeding my four week old baby. The woman kept looking at me whilst muttering away at the husband.

I'm new to this whole breastfeeding malarky and tbh I'm still a little self conscious about doing this publicly. Its silly, irrational I know. Anyway, after 35 minutes of this intense scrutiny, I blew a fuse and asked her what her "bloody problem" was. She sat there mouth agape and momentarily flummoxed. After this brief silence, she squared up to me, commenting that there was a "time and place for that sort of thing" (breastfeeding). I said "theres nothing unnatural about what I'm doing", to which she responded that "urinating" is also natural but "this doesnt entitle" me to make an "exhibition" of myself in public. She mentioned that she used to go into the public conveniences when feeding her brood, so she failed to see why I couldn't make that compromise too. I truly lost it at this point and told her to go and drink her fucking tea in the lavatory.

At this point, the manager (an old friend of mine) intercepted and asked the "woman" if she and her husband would like a table elsewhere. This didn't go down too well, and seething with rage she asked for her bill and left.

I was being as discreet as possible. Little more than the upper part of my breast was visible. What would she have preferred? A crying baby? I can't believe such cosseted, narrow minded people still exist in this day and age. Im still shaken up by it. I had really hoped to continue breastfeeding for as long as possible but am now questioning the reality of this.

OP posts:
chegirlsgotheartburn · 05/01/2010 19:53

People get annoyed at what they think they might see rather than what they can. I have fed 3 of my DCs and have never flashed my boob at anyone.

TBH I dont think I have ever had a negative comment but thats because I look like a chav. Maybe they think I would chiv em if they tutted

You are doing great - feck em.

rosietheriveter · 05/01/2010 20:07

YANBU, she was. I FF due to being royally screwed by the community midwives and I really admire anyone who BFs at all, let alone in public!

You could also ask your friend to find out about the "breastfeeding welcome here" scheme. Local businesses in Leeds have a sign on the door saying that BFing mums are welcome... maybe it would put people like her off going in there in the first place? Or at least they could point it out and she could shove off/shut up.

scottishmummy · 05/01/2010 20:13

or in fact a sign saying mums welcome here would be nice.adequate space,heat food,changing facilities

Fibilou · 05/01/2010 20:19

I think there is a business opportunity for a "baby cafe". Somewhere where you could confidently go without being stared at by pervy old men, know you would be left in peace and [horrors] nobody would mind if they got a bit of an eyeful more than intended. With a lovely fragrant changing room, lots of pushchair space and a bottle preparation area.

This fantasy cafe of mine would have lovely hot chocolate and delicious homemade food as well at SMP-friendly prices

rhapsodyinblue · 05/01/2010 20:19

Well done you! And stupid woman.

My dds are teenagers now. I bf them (discreetly) everywhere - in church, restaurants, park benches - fortunately never had any problems from other people.

Don't let it put you off.

scottishmummy · 05/01/2010 20:24

Baby Café enter your postcode find a baby cafe

Fibilou · 05/01/2010 20:26

Smartiepants . Guess I won't be going on Dragon's Den with that idea then...lol

BitOfFun · 05/01/2010 20:27

Rhapsody, really? I would expect the odd comment if I was breastfeeding a teenager, tbh. Fortunately, mine isn't interested, so I'll never know...

wollysocks · 05/01/2010 21:02

i totally agree, woman was out of order and YOU MUST NOT be put off.

You are lucky, for me it was difficult bf because my other breast would leek too! Anyone else had that, so I was limited to going out or take a towel with me fgs!!!! I have seen a mum i knew from toddler group bf and am in awe of her as no leeky breasts.

ToffeeCrumble · 05/01/2010 21:17

I used to feel really self conscious too so i used to drape a muslin square over my shoulder and my baby's head so there was nothing to feel self conscious about. (Obviously i made sure there was a gap so that dd could breathe!) I know we shouldn't have to do that and i wish i had the courage to bf openly and proudly, but i am shy and we live in a society where some people have some very odd views on bf. I was going to say that no one would be disgusted if a mum was feeding a baby from a bottle in a cafe, but there prob would be people who would judge ff so we are damned if we do and damned if we don't! Hope you don;t give up bf due to self consciousness. Use a muslin if it helps.

shockers · 05/01/2010 21:26

behonest I used to do the scarf or light blanket thing around one shoulder so that boob wasn't visible but again it was for my sake not the public's.
I BF DS1 til he was 12 months but probably only in public places til he was weaned at 6 months.
I don't think anyone ever noticed.

I did love your comment about her drinking her tea in the loo... why should your babe drink in there if she wouldn't

shockers · 05/01/2010 21:31

X post with toffeecrumble! Bet no-one ever noticed you either... it's not hiding, it's just your special time and you don't want to feel as though it's a spectator sport!

santaschristmascakeywakey · 05/01/2010 21:42

I agree with some of the other posters that you could have been a little less agressive perhaps with your opening line However, after 35 mins of being stared at, I'd be narked off too.

Smiling sweetly at people and being uber polite normally throws them off their guard a bit more and exposes them as the unreasonable busybodies that they are - don't give them any room to feel that they have a right to have a go at you.

It's wonderful to breastfeed and fantastic that you're confident it enough to go out and do it. Don't let this miserable old bag stop you!

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