in thinking that this behaviour in British slaughterhouses is horrific and needs to be stopped?

[Vallhala]

www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS/pr_factory//2188//

I haven't seen the film footage as I can't face it. FYI I don't eat meat (for animal welfare reasons) but this isn't designed to convert others or to spark yet another veggie vs meat-eater debate.

Its to ask whether any decent human being would think these practices reasonable or acceptable and to pray to goodness that those who don't will forward the link to their MPs/press contacts/whoever in order to obtain tighter legislation and closer surveillance on what goes on in our slaughterhouses.

This is surely so wrong... or AIBU?

Dead is Dead, as long as it tastes ok imho.

I don't see it matters whether the animal is smothered in their sleep with a silkly pillow or has it's head taken off with an axe, the result is the same.

When I am tucking into my Turkey on Christmas day I won't give a second thought to how it met it's maker.

yanbu if someone treated a pet like this they would be jailed.

I don't think YABU but then I'm also a veggie! Animals should all be kept humanely and if they are for meat, slaughtered humanely too.

Must show dp tomorrow...he is an ex slaughter man.

Can't watch the film footage either. Not sure I'll sleep tonight after reading that list of atrocities.

I watched it all. It was horrible. Not enough to stop me eating meat though. Sorry.

Lady, I'd be interested to hear your DHs response to the article, whether he thought these were unusual cases or not and so on.

TUS I wonder what reaction I'd get on here if said similar words about a murdered child. Let me make it clear though - I wouldn't because I believe that no sentient being should suffer pain and fear at another's hands, be they animal or human.

Vall thats the reason I will show him. I don't know what it was like it was many many years before i met him when he was young lol and not old like now

Well, considering that report is over 6 months old? Who knows a) if its still going on and b) perhaps people have already contacted their MPs and their MPs just don't care.

And its not a pet or a child. Its meat for eating. Tasty tasty meat.

That is horrible!

I am a big meat eater but always buy Meat that claims to have been reared free range and is organic.
Animal or HUman, everything deserves a good life before it dies especailly if it born to eat, i wasnt aware this was happening, i really hope something will be odne about it.

"And its not a pet or a child. Its meat for eating. Tasty tasty meat." QUOTE

What an intelligent comment about living, feeling beings.

"It" is not an "it", but a creature, a him or her. "It" is not meat for eating until killed - I was not raising the issue of meat but of cruelty.

God help your children if thats the way you view the fear and pain experienced by other living creatures.

Kerrist on a bike, death is death. Don't eat meat for ethical reasons if you object to death of an animal. However, the utter hypocrisy is to say that if an animal is killed 'nicely' i.e. humanely, then eating meat is absolutely fine. The poor beast is offed, you can't have it both ways.
And how on Earth does eating organic meat make any difference????????????????
I love a good steak tartare now and again....

Yes, death is death but the way of dying ie. without unnecessary pain and suffering is important too.

It is perfectly possible to kill an animal in a more humane way so that it doesn't know its death is coming, and that it is stunned.

Yes, Vallhala, feel for my loved, cared for son, who is currently sound asleep on my lap because I don't give a rats ass how my meat is killed.

If y'all are so concerned about this, start raising your own animals and butchering them yourself, its the only way to be sure they are being raised and killed nicely.

BTW, if y'all get your wish for all animals to be killed nicely? Say good buy to cheap food prices.

The link you show isn't typical. I have to visit slaughterhouses sometimes as part of my work. I've not come across the practices mentioned in them, they are big well run slaughterhouses producing meat for well known brands.

YANBU to highlight that there are slaughterhouses operating bad practice, YABU if you tar all slaughterhouses with the same brush.

Grr, should be say good-bye, obviously.

Tee2072 that is bollocks.

Bad slaughterhouse practice is down to lack of training and lack of supervision, it won't make meat more expensive if the few bad ones are forced to come in line with the rest of them.
As I said, the practices shown in the link are not typical.

By the way, it's not just about being "killed nicely", it's about being slaughtered in a clean environment and the animals being disease free before slaughter.

Animals should be treated properly, raised and despatched humanely. If it makes meat more expensive, well good. Because it's a life and life should be expensive.

People don't have to eat meat everyday - why not eat better tasting meat less often.

Well, I care about how an animal is slaughtered, and many religions also do. Kosher and Halal laws ensure that an animal doesn't suffer unnecessary pain and there are sepcific procedures as to how an animal is to be slaughtered.

Agree with itsme re: practices. It isn't common, hopefully.

I don't buy or eat cheap meat anyway so i dont give a crap about expensive Meat prices, if i couldnt affod it i wouldnt eat it.

I was about to post but then I noticed that JulesJules had said pretty much word for word what I was about to type - so ditto her post!

I firmly beleive that every meat eater should be made at some point to raise, kill and gut their own meat - then they might start to think of meat as being from an actual animal rather than a package in a supermarket.

Then they might realise that the animal is a living, feeling being with a complex range of personalities and emotions - despite it's intelligence or status in the food chain.

I could never kill my own meat, therefore I do not eat meat.

And vids like this only reinstate the cruelty of humans and the following thread the ignorance of some folk.

But no shock there.