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To be wound up by primary school kids wearing shag bands

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RattusNorvegicus · 23/10/2009 21:18

I work in a high school and we had Y5 primary school kids visiting for transition today. Lots of them had shag bands on. These have been banned from our school, and I'm sure most of the younger kids don't know what they represent, but it still goes through me to see them being worn.New here, be gentle!

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RubberDuck · 24/10/2009 12:33

(also, does anyone know where I can buy Claires Accessories shares? They must be rubbing their hands with glee at all this free publicity...)

DailyMailNameChanger · 24/10/2009 12:39

This is another one of those "FGS" thrads (for me).

Shagbands have been around for years, AFAIK not one primary school aged child (or secondary for that) have every gone out and had sex behind the bikesheds because they broke a bracelet.

This is one of those things where the parents and teachers run around clutching themsleves screaming "what about the children, think of the children" and the kids sit there going "yeah, whatever, do you actually think I am that stupid?"

CherylVole · 24/10/2009 12:40

i TOTALLY concurr.
you lot are nuts to think this is anything but a talking point.

TombliBOOOOOObs · 24/10/2009 12:56

Well thought out counter argument Cheryl as usual

Calling someone 'nuts' for disagreeing with you is offensive.

Paolosgirl · 24/10/2009 15:19

Yeah - and the playboy bunny symbol is just a cute little rabbit

Honestly - why on earth would anyone want to be associated with these things, far less let your child walk around with anything that has any connotation to sex? No-one is running around screaming - but rational adults are saying "no" to their children and explaining why.

DailyMailNameChanger · 24/10/2009 15:44

People are banning small thin rubber bracelets from schools because they feel they cannot trust their 14yo (or whatever) to not go and have sex because a bracelet says so. TBH I really think we need to have a bit more faith in our skills as parents - if you have not taught them not to go around giving out blow jobs because of something like that then we should probably be focusing on parenting rather than bracelets. If your child is going to have sex because of a bracelet the chances are that they were going to do it anyway, bracelet or not.

The more people obsess over them the more interesting they become.

The playboy symbol is actually a different thing because it leads directly to playboy bunnys, bunny mansion and Hugh Hefner, shag bands lead to... well, probably some new type of bracelet. I think I can just about cope with my dc wearing bracelets.

ImSoNotTelling · 24/10/2009 15:49

Plus no-one is saying that children who wear playboy clothing or have a playboy pencil case are up for taking their clothes off and being photographed It is the brand that is distasteful and inappropriate because it is lining the pockets of pornographers.

Bracelets are just bracelets.

Dailymail people are talking about 8 year olds

DailyMailNameChanger · 24/10/2009 15:59

Telling, they are talking about both, about them being banned in secondary as well as primary wearing them. Tbh talking about 8yo just makes it even more idiotic.

Bracelets are just bracelets, indeed.

ImSoNotTelling · 24/10/2009 16:08

That's my point.

TombliBOOOOOObs · 24/10/2009 16:09

I ask again, if your DD asked 8 said 'Mum can I have some shag bands?'

You would be happy?

Consistently missing the point does not help. As I have stated I don't think they will lead to any sexual acts, my issue is with the parents knowingly buying 'shag bands' for their young children, without questioning whether it is a good idea.

ImSoNotTelling · 24/10/2009 16:12

What do you think will happen if they wear the bracelets then?

TombliBOOOOOObs · 24/10/2009 16:13

I'll answer yours, if you answer mine

ImSoNotTelling · 24/10/2009 16:16

What did you make of "frankie says relax" t-shirts back in the day?

ImSoNotTelling · 24/10/2009 16:17

Or primary school girls singing "like a virgin" and wriggling as best they would like madonna?

feralgirl · 24/10/2009 16:18

Rubberduck, when I said I was at the idea of the fad dieing out if we (adults) all started wearing them, I wasn't referring to anything you said, I was at famishedass's comment:

"I've told me kids if they get one, I'm getting one and I'm wearing it down the school too. See how they like it."

How would that be making a fuss? It would just be making them deeply, deeply uncool!

And they can add pressure for teenage girls ime; some have spoken about it at my school so they're banned, just like all other jewellery, with no extra fuss.

As far as younger kids wearing them goes, I know they're not 'advertising' but I can just imagine one of my less nice Y11 boys spotting an unknowing 10 year old wearing one and being deeply unpleasant about it.

Not sure I'd want some 'orrible great 16 year old shouting at my innocent little DC "'ow come you're wearin' a shag band then? You up for it or wot?", even if he was joking.

Paolosgirl · 24/10/2009 16:19

Tombli, don't worry - there are plenty of adults on here and in RL who agree with you! The playboy bunny symbol/shag bands/sexy underwear for young children are all inappropriate not simply because it's lining the marketing man's pocket in the pornographic industry or the retail industry, but because of their sexual connotations which are specifically targeted at children. The vast majority of parents do not accept that, fortunately.

DailyMailNameChanger · 24/10/2009 16:21

Ahh, no, you assume they do not question if it is a good idea.

The fact is that, for a lot of people, it goes a bit like this;

"mum can I have some of those bracelets from Claires?"

"yes dd, if you pay for them from your pocket money"

The fact that they allow them to have them does not mean that they have not thought about it, they simply do not see it as some big deal that you do.

Relax T'shirts? Again did anyone really think kids were running around practicing to put off premature ejaculation? Thought not.

DailyMailNameChanger · 24/10/2009 16:24

"Like a virgin" is a problem now too?

Jeepers creepers, perhaps you should lobby for the certification of music, like they do with films?

TBH I am beginning to side with the poster following me earlier who pronounced you all nuts.

ImSoNotTelling · 24/10/2009 16:25

I am quite pleased with the frankie says relax parallel, even if I say so myself

feralgirl do the boys go in for sexual intimidation a lot in your neck of the woods? I know it is a big problem in some parts of london etc. However I think it probably would be a problem with or without bracelets.

Paolosgirl · 24/10/2009 16:25

No, your child says can I have some bracelets/playboy bunnies/lacey udnerwear from Claires

You say no

Your child aks why

You then explain what they represent, and why you don't want her to be associated with that or give any of her hard earned pocket money to that industry

She complains - everyone has them

You repeat no. Ad infinitum.

Simples.

ImSoNotTelling · 24/10/2009 16:28

Dailymail i think you have got a bit confused. I was making the point that in our day children wore frankie says t-shirts and sang like a virgin and no-one thought there was any intent, and was drawing a parallel with these "shag bands". ie we agree with each other.

Unless I have missed some posts somewhere?

ImSoNotTelling · 24/10/2009 16:29

paolosgirl what did you make of the frankie says t-shirts? Or wouldn't your mum let you have one?

ImSoNotTelling · 24/10/2009 16:29

Please don't tell me you were too young to be around then...

DailyMailNameChanger · 24/10/2009 16:31

Thank you Paolos I will decide for myself what I say no to for my dds. Simples???

Playboy - yup that is a no, it links to prostitution.

Lacy underwear, yep that is a no, it is F*ing uncomfortable.

Bracelets, no, not a no. It is an F*ing bracelet and leads to nothing more than a new thing for people with far too much time on their hands to wimper on about.

DailyMailNameChanger · 24/10/2009 16:32

Nope telling, we agree. I just re-read and realised sorry!

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