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To find this article about Stephen Gately's death utterly vile and callous?

213 replies

BiteOfFun · 16/10/2009 13:37

Quelle surprise- it's in the Daily Hate, and surely represents a new low? What a nasty piece of writing- shame on you, Jan Moir!

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flaminhell · 16/10/2009 19:43

I saw the headline, and didnt read any further, absolute twoddle, I would have exploded with anger if I had, it was obvious from the opener what it was, absolute shite!

TheBightyMoosh · 16/10/2009 19:49

What a vile article - do you really think anyone else out there actually agrees with her? I really hope she is a lone voice..

SCARYspicemonster · 16/10/2009 19:51

Oh I disagree Nancy. I bet Gateley's family's lawyers are having an absolute field day and I don't blame them

"Whatever the cause of death, it is not, by any yardstick, a natural one."

"His mother is still insisting he died from a previously undetected heart condition that plagued the family"

Just those comments alone breach a couple of codes.

Code 1) Accuracy

  • The article fails to distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact.

Code 5) Intrusion into grief or shock

  • His poor husband and his family haven't even buried him yet

And the article as a whole breaches another

Code 12) Discrimination

  • The connections between his death and his lifestyle are purely because he was gay. Not to mention the quite bizarre link between Stephen's death and Kevin McGee's suicide.
flaminhell · 16/10/2009 19:55

i read it, i am sure she wears bed sheets in her spare time and burns crosses, I would have her head if that was my son.

funtimewincies · 16/10/2009 19:59

Just foul. And yes, young and healthy men die, a someone has already said. A fit and sporty 20-something friend of my BIL went to sleep having had a couple of pints with friends and simply didn't wake up. He had a health condition that neither he nor his family were aware of.

I hope that there is a circle of hell for people who make their living by writing this sort of bile.

smallorange · 16/10/2009 20:07

I don't think the Gateley's lawyers can do much because it's comment.

Factual inaccuracies and general homophobic fuckwittedness will be 'dealt with' by the PCC, probably over lunch somewhere...

The PCC just produces guidelines, it doesn't make law.

Thought the implication that there was more to Stephen's tragic death than meets the eye was a bit iffy legally - but the lawyers have obviously told them to me clear it wasn't murder.

Horrible that this is even going on. His poor family.

Ladyanonymous · 16/10/2009 20:09

Get her sacked.... www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/group.php?gid=185391875434&ref=nf

junglist1 · 16/10/2009 20:14

I agree, not nice. So what if he did smoke a spliff, that wouldn't kill a young man (or even an old man). The whole tone is just blergh

Ladyanonymous · 16/10/2009 20:17

Sorry....here, complain....disgusting piece of "journalism", even for the Daily Fascist.

www.pcc.org.uk/cop/practice.html

Janos · 16/10/2009 20:54

Hmmm.

Number of people upset by Stephen Gatelys death. In the thousands I expect.

Number of people who will be upset by Jan Moirs?

Hmmmm......expect they'll have problems drumming up someone to even conduct the service if she continues at this rate.

Liskey · 16/10/2009 21:43

Press Complaints website have a link on their home page saying:

IF YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE JAN MOIR PIECE IN THE DAILY MAIL PLEASE CLICK HERE.

www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/process.html

Do you think they might be getting inundated with complaints?

forehead · 16/10/2009 21:46

Nasty article, by a nasty mean spirited individual.

Liskey · 16/10/2009 21:48

Yep totally agree and have just submitted my complaint. I hope they have to print a retraction and apology.

Liskey · 16/10/2009 21:50

BBC website is reporting that "The PCC said the number of complaints received about the piece by Jan Moir was "approaching a record"."

ChunkyMonkeysMum · 16/10/2009 22:09

It's on the news now !! Nasty bitch this Jan Moir.

gingerbunny · 16/10/2009 22:16

awful vile woman. his poor family and friends are suffering enough without small minded publicity seeking so called journalist writing rubbish like this.
i wonder how she would feel if someone wrote something vile about her loved one.
RIP Stephen.

LongtimeinBrussels · 16/10/2009 22:25

Apart from my personal feelings on how disgusting this article is in the wake of a young man's death, it is also inaccurate and therefore absolutely does breach code 1) Accuracy. To suggest that "Healthy and fit 33-year-old men do not just climb into their pyjamas and go to sleep on the sofa, never to wake up again" is an insult not only to Stephen Gately but also to every young person that this has happened to. Unfortunately, in the past year, this has happened to the 21 year old sons of two of my friends. It is called SADS (sudden adult death syndrome) and you can read about it here on the website of the organisation CRY (cardiac risk in the young).

LongtimeinBrussels · 16/10/2009 22:25

Needless to say I've already joined the ranks of those who have complained to the PCC.

ChunkyMonkeysMum · 16/10/2009 22:32

And now, to make matters worse, the DM have reported that the Bulgarian man, Giorgi Dochev is "in negotiations to sell his story for upwards of 70,000 euros". Absolutely disgusting !!!

Story here (scroll to the bottom)

larks35 · 16/10/2009 22:35

Although I agree that YANBU from the short bit I could be bothered to read I realised that it's a totally shite piece of journalism, I have to ask though what else do you expect from the Daily Misery?

Ladyanonymous · 16/10/2009 22:36

This is brilliant....

enemiesofreason.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-there-is-nothing-natural-about-life.html

GrendelsMum · 17/10/2009 19:54

Have complained to the PCC, although I agree that the Daily Mail does tend to contain some very unpleasant articles and I would personally try to avoid reading it.

notanumber · 17/10/2009 20:27

I personally found Moir's views in her article offensive.

But I would defend to the death the right - and this includes Moir's right - to free speech.

I am very uncomfortable with the hysterical baying surrounding this; demands for her silence and shrieking about breaching codes and whatnot.

I don't agree with her but I think that she should be able to express her opinions.

Free speech means exactly that. It does not mean - thankfully - free speech for those of a liberal persauasion and everyone else can just shut the fuck up or we'll report you.

Express your disgust at her opinions by all means, engage in debate about her opinions in public forums, absolutely. But trying to silence her is a dangerous territory and not one that I would be happy to enter.

scottishmummy · 17/10/2009 20:38

stephen will be remembered as talent taken taken too early

not by base shallow comments

i liked him

SCARYspicemonster · 17/10/2009 20:41

notanumber - I agree that she's absolutely within her rights to express her opinion and I don't want to silence her. What I question is whether a national paper should pay someone for expressing such vile views. Would any paper dare put Nick Griffen be on the payroll? I think not.

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