to be miffed that dd2's teacher says 'anyfink'?

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dd2 came home the other day saying that her teacher had said 'anyfink' and 'that wasn't right was it'?

I said that it wasn't right.

She's a primary school teacher fhs. She should be able to pronounce words properly

YANBU. It is wrong. I don't see how that's an accent, it's just plain wrong.

Well i'm from the east end of London, a bonafide cockney and i do NOT say 'anyfink' or 'nuffink' thank you very much! It is lazy speech and nothing else IMO

Yes well I was born and brought up in Peckham and I don't say nuffink either. Being a Londener etc has got nuffink to do with it

I only do it when I feel lazy and when I'm not thinking (sorry finking) about it too much. and madamearcati of course I can still spell correctrly

Where I lived as a teenager, many locals (inc. teachers) say "heighth" instead of "height". As in, to get the volume of a rectangular solid, multiply the length, width and heighth ... It is a regional thing and they all defend it as logical, but still, it's not really correct, is it? Because "heighth" simply isn't a word.

Can't see that this is very different, really. No matter how accepting you are about regional variations in language, presumably there is an accepted basic standard of what's correct. It's not just snobbery or whatever. It may be fine to pronounce things differently if you prefer to, I'm not saying anyone should be hauled over coals for it, but that doesn't mean that all pronunciations are equal, surely?

What happens if "anything" appears on the weekly spellings list? Does the teacher call out "anyfink"?

As others have said, this is nothing to do with regional accents and everything to do with ignorance. Or even everyfink to do with ignorance, innit?

I say "FF" for "th", as I am a cockney scummer, unless I'm in court. Judges seem to be the only folk outside of mumsnet who afford any significance to this particular accent.

DD is picking up a Northern accent from nursery. It's not wrong, just different.

I suggest the OP forks out for Cheltenham Ladies College if it matters that much.

not ignorance, as I've said sometimes those with regional accents slip up from time to time because that is their natural way of speaking and I would like it to be known I never say innit

YABU and ridiculously snooty. Pay for private school.

TBH, I would rather have a teacher with that as her main fault than some of the teachers I hear about in RL. If that is all your DD has found to criticise her on, then she is doing well. I am not saying it is right, but I think these things have to be put in to perspective.

I would also hope that you haven't encouraged your DD with her criticism of her teacher and that despite the teacher having such a massive 'flaw' that you are still encouraging your DD to be respectful.

I am a teacher and I aspire to be the perfect specimen of mankind that some people expect.

To the OP, not to the post that just happens to be above this one by the time its posted.

and again

Glad you made that clear chegirl

By prettyfly1 on Mon 12-Oct-09 12:25:52 YABU and ridiculously snooty. Pay for private school.

I do and dd's teacher still says nofink and mafs.

Half of the kids inb her class go to speech and drama lessons so are contantly told about enunciation.

As I said before, I have a strong accent but I do pronounce my words clearly using consonants.

I don't think it matters if a teacher or anyone says: "anyfink" as part of their accent, dialect, long standing family tradition or whatever. As long as you knew what she meant, why stress about it so much?

If she started telling the kids that the word anything is spelled "a n y f i n k," that's a different matter entirely.

PMSL at south east accent being neutral, btw.

Yes yabu, your dd ears wont fall off from hearing it pronounced 'anyfink'

maybe she has a speech impediment and can't pronounce 'th'

oh and you sound like a snob to me too

Regional accents, pronunciations etc are what they are. If you live in the SE, your LOs will pick up that accent, likewise if you live in Scotland, Ireland, Wales, or anywhere where the local dialect differs in pronunciation, that's the accent that will be acquired, by anyone learning the language.

DH is not originally from Britain, and from his early years here, and who he was living winth, has picked up an Irish influenced accent. Many friends of his were married to SCottish women, and they have their own scottich influenced way of speaking.

Nothing wrong with that.

Dropping the 'h', the 'th' or the 't's are MIS-pronunciations.

My DS has just learned how to say the TH, it was a struggle, but he always knew it ought to be said like that, only his tongue was not developed enough to quite grasp it... Until yesterday actually!

He said Be'er instead of Better the other day, and I asked him where he'd heard that. The telly apparently. ()

I gently explained that it's Better, it has 2 T's in it, so best to pronounce them so people can understand what you are saying.

ANYFINK is just plain WRONG.

I've got a bit of an Essex accent & find certain people regard the way I speak as being incorrect. dh is from Northern Ireland & never has this happen to him with his accent. Why is it that so many people regard Essex/London accents as being non-existent & simply a case of lots of people who happen to be from the same area being unable to talk properly. Anythink however is hideous & not anything to do with any accent I'm aware of. ds is sadly gaining an odd accent which is a combination of mine & his dads & sounds completely fake but that's another story entirely.

but dropping t's and h's IS part of a cockney accent,some of us do try to correct it but sometimes it just sorts of slips out, I don't go out of my way to talk like an old washer woman.

Would she have been reading aloud from a Horrid Henry / Just William type book, with added 'voices'?

Bit like the north and dropping g's no? ...or should that be droppin'

exactly juneybean but Londoners seem to get slated for it, no one likes us

I just think that if this teachers does speak like that perhaps she comes from a working class background and I bet her parents are really pleased and proud she went to university and became a teacher.

glad most people agree.

It's not the end of the world at all

It's just wrong for a teacher

yes juneybean, instead of becoming a crack dealing bank robber with a penchant for jellied eels.

lol well quite!